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Post by sydwargamer on Jul 19, 2017 10:28:30 GMT
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Post by gregorius on Jul 20, 2017 0:42:47 GMT
Was I the first to register Stephen?
Cheers,
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Post by sydwargamer on Jul 20, 2017 1:35:45 GMT
Yes, you were...
Are you expecting a chocolate frog or something?
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Post by gregorius on Jul 20, 2017 12:40:29 GMT
Something, as I don't like chocolate ! Cheers,
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Post by Spitzicles on Jul 20, 2017 22:33:22 GMT
Was I the first to register Stephen? Cheers, Ah Gregorius - first amongst equals as usual.
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Post by sydwargamer on Jul 24, 2017 9:16:22 GMT
Something, as I don't like chocolate ! Cheers, I can always eat it for you.
Or would you prefer a donut?
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Post by macbeth on Aug 15, 2017 0:26:10 GMT
That is me registered for DBA3 Cheers
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Post by Spitzicles on Sept 23, 2017 23:41:35 GMT
I'll be there on Sunday with my son Michael for the Mongol campaign. Is there the usual "festival of meat" dinner on Saturday night?
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Post by macbeth on Sept 28, 2017 22:30:05 GMT
I have all my gear laid out on the lounge room floor ready to be packed for a crack of dawn run for Sydney tomorrow
Tremble in fear before my Trojans (with Hittite Allies) and my even more fearsome Siamese
See you tomorrow
Cheers
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Post by kaptainkobold on Oct 3, 2017 0:09:25 GMT
I have all my gear laid out on the lounge room floor ready to be packed for a crack of dawn run for Sydney tomorrow Tremble in fear before my Trojans (with Hittite Allies) and my even more fearsome Siamese See you tomorrow Cheers I'm sorry I never got to encounter your Siamese on the Sunday. My Mound Builders spent most of the day fighting a series of identikit European medieval armies, with only some Byzantines breaking the monotony. I could have done with the variety Alan
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Post by paddy649 on Oct 3, 2017 8:36:44 GMT
Alan,
I much enjoyed your MOAB AAR on the Stronghold Rebuilt....looks like you did take a knife to a gun fight...but that looked fun!
I was confused at the comment "A feature of this competition was that you could used any of the variants in your chosen list, in each game. Including allies. So [your opponent] saw my army, and used the flexibility of his list to maximise the number of blade elements he had; he then dropped most of his archers, chose his own list as an ally, and had more blades." How does that work?
Looks like this would open up the pre-game to "if you take the knights then I'll use extra archers, otherwise I'll use more blades" type strategies. I'd much prefer "come as you are" armies as this would prevent a pre-game arms race. Besides in this instance I don't think your opponent needed to be quite so gamey given that his army was in full plate mail and armed with lances and halberds while your Mound Builders wore paint and carried pointy sticks.
Paddy
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Post by gregorius on Oct 3, 2017 22:30:11 GMT
Just enjoyed a great weekend of DBA at MOAB. Though I bought up the tail with my hillbilly Greeks on Saturday and clearly failed to live up to the Mongol ideal in Sunday's campaign, I thoroughly enjoyed my gaming. Thanks to Stephen Webb for running such a great competition and to my many opponents.
Cheers,
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Post by kaptainkobold on Oct 4, 2017 1:25:05 GMT
Alan, I much enjoyed your MOAB AAR on the Stronghold Rebuilt....looks like you did take a knife to a gun fight...but that looked fun! I was confused at the comment "A feature of this competition was that you could used any of the variants in your chosen list, in each game. Including allies. So [your opponent] saw my army, and used the flexibility of his list to maximise the number of blade elements he had; he then dropped most of his archers, chose his own list as an ally, and had more blades." How does that work? Looks like this would open up the pre-game to "if you take the knights then I'll use extra archers, otherwise I'll use more blades" type strategies. I'd much prefer "come as you are" armies as this would prevent a pre-game arms race. Besides in this instance I don't think your opponent needed to be quite so gamey given that his army was in full plate mail and armed with lances and halberds while your Mound Builders wore paint and carried pointy sticks. Paddy I'd kind of seen that you could tweak the army in the tournament notes, but I hadn't realised how much flexibility this gave you if you chose the right list and had the available figures. Adding in the ally was a particularly cunning move. Of course the army I chose has one option (swap the Litter general for a 4BW), and no allies, so I was on a fixed list for the day; who's going to pass up having a litter? I have no idea how it works if both sides want to change their armies in response to the other; only one player I faced actually did it (although I had another who had a dismount option which they considered). I much prefer 'come as you are' and prefer even more 'come as you are with a matched pair', as that offers a more interesting variety of armies, plus the chance to play with armies you wouldn't normally use.
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Post by macbeth on Oct 4, 2017 3:39:53 GMT
Alan, I much enjoyed your MOAB AAR on the Stronghold Rebuilt....looks like you did take a knife to a gun fight...but that looked fun! I was confused at the comment "A feature of this competition was that you could used any of the variants in your chosen list, in each game. Including allies. So [your opponent] saw my army, and used the flexibility of his list to maximise the number of blade elements he had; he then dropped most of his archers, chose his own list as an ally, and had more blades." How does that work? Looks like this would open up the pre-game to "if you take the knights then I'll use extra archers, otherwise I'll use more blades" type strategies. I'd much prefer "come as you are" armies as this would prevent a pre-game arms race. Besides in this instance I don't think your opponent needed to be quite so gamey given that his army was in full plate mail and armed with lances and halberds while your Mound Builders wore paint and carried pointy sticks. Paddy I'd kind of seen that you could tweak the army in the tournament notes, but I hadn't realised how much flexibility this gave you if you chose the right list and had the available figures. Adding in the ally was a particularly cunning move. Of course the army I chose has one option (swap the Litter general for a 4BW), and no allies, so I was on a fixed list for the day; who's going to pass up having a litter? I have no idea how it works if both sides want to change their armies in response to the other; only one player I faced actually did it (although I had another who had a dismount option which they considered). I much prefer 'come as you are' and prefer even more 'come as you are with a matched pair', as that offers a more interesting variety of armies, plus the chance to play with armies you wouldn't normally use. Basically you got to choose your elements at deployment - so the defender had to decide on any options blind (but after terrain had been laid) whilst the attacker got to see the what sort of opponent they were up against before putting down their choice. I myself enjoy the challenge of these sorts of competition - in the past brining armies that were light on for very powerful elements but with enough choice so as to adapt.
Although I sometimes believe that I am the reason that more and more competitions run with a fixed list.
In fact that is what I run at my to competitions - it allows for a straight rating of an army for the handicap prize.
Alan - I too regretted not getting to face your Mound Builders, I faced a string of Late Medievals and won where I could keep my Bd away from their Kn
Cheers
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Post by paddy649 on Oct 4, 2017 8:26:56 GMT
Thanks McBeth. That explains the tournament rules clearly. It places a big premium on high Aggression armies (so you lay down last) with multiple options and many Allies. How would you handicap system cope with such high degrees of flexibility?
Alan - agree that 'come as you are with a matched pair' is a good tournament approach as this means that competitors get to play with armies that they possibly haven't ever even considered before. I tend to collect match pairs anyway.....or rather for every army I have an "equal and opposite pile of unpainted lead!"
However, I liked the way that some of the DBA tournaments at DBA 3.0 at Hurricon 2017 were organised as described by Tony Aguilar - a 4 Pike min tournament, a 477 AD to 1065 AD tournament and a Armies and Enemies of China Tournament. Theses specific army lists added variety and interest while limiting "killer armies" such as Qaramita or Lithuania to Open classifications. That said I suppose the purpose of a competition is to win fairly within the rules and if the tournament rules allow army options and/or dismounting then it is fair for players to maximise their advantage by using that flexibility.
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