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Jun 9, 2016 11:24:18 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 11:24:18 GMT
In standard DBA what allies have you used and what were their strengths and weaknesses?
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Jun 9, 2016 13:06:13 GMT
Post by timurilank on Jun 9, 2016 13:06:13 GMT
In standard DBA what allies have you used and what were their strengths and weaknesses? If I field my Romans I prefer not to use allies.
However, during this campaign test, Spanish allies were used. These would add useful troop types to negotiate difficult hills and woods.
Playing standard games with barbarians, I use Sarmatian allies for my Carpi.
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Jun 9, 2016 20:21:21 GMT
Post by Cromwell on Jun 9, 2016 20:21:21 GMT
I have to confess I have never used Allies. Mind you I lose most of my games and who would want to be an ally of a loser!
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Jun 10, 2016 6:00:46 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 10, 2016 6:00:46 GMT
I rather enjoy using a Numidian allied contingent with Polybian Romans. It contains 1 x General (Cv or LH); 1 x horsemen (LH) and 1x javelinmen (Ps). This ally adds a very different aspect to the Romans and of course would be well at home on the fields of Zama. It doesn't provide a powerful strike force but the LH can act independently which I think is useful.
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Jun 10, 2016 7:13:43 GMT
Post by timurilank on Jun 10, 2016 7:13:43 GMT
I rather enjoy using a Numidian allied contingent with Polybian Romans. It contains 1 x General (Cv or LH); 1 x horsemen (LH) and 1x javelinmen (Ps). This ally adds a very different aspect to the Romans and of course would be well at home on the fields of Zama. Not only Zama, but Numidian contingents proved useful during the Spanish and Greek campaigns as well.
Elephants, though historically correct, would pose a slight problem.
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Jun 10, 2016 7:16:02 GMT
Post by Simon on Jun 10, 2016 7:16:02 GMT
I take a couple of South Welsh 3Lb and the compulsory South Wales Gen (cav) to give a bit of firepower to my North Welsh - although, with the drain on pips, not sure it is worth it!
Simon
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Jun 10, 2016 21:33:52 GMT
Post by martin on Jun 10, 2016 21:33:52 GMT
I have used Islesmen allied to Anglo-Irish. Provides a littoral ally to an arable 'base' army (which can place a waterway when defending). Very handy, though the Islesmen are a tad slow.
Also used Syracusans allied to my Illyrians..... A bit different, artillery fun, but the armies were struggling from word go- Illyrians Ain't hot.
Used Feudal English Kn as allies for North Welsh (added mounted punch)- very successful at the English Open. Also as allies for South Welsh, at the Welsh DBA Open. The bow-heavy South Welsh needed a little variety. The English Kn did a lot of the close fighting, while the Welsh archers stood off and shot. Quite successful.
Also Cypriot/Phoenician ally, with 2 x HCh and an Ax or Sp, for Philistines.
A few others I can't recall.
The "littoral ally to arable base army" idea works well. The arable army can place a waterway as terrain, so if the opponent is NON- littoral, you get to do a landing which the enemy can't counter with littoral. If he's littoral, don't place a waterway. If he is littoral and defends, you get second landing, to squish his landing.
Howzat? M
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Jun 10, 2016 21:43:50 GMT
Post by martin on Jun 10, 2016 21:43:50 GMT
Oh yes, also Batavian ally for EIR at Tarrington 2015 Midland Open....lost 5, drew one. Retrograde amnesia, obviously didn't want to remember :-). !!! High aggression Romans invaded too often, so the littoral Batavians rarely played the landing game.
M
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Jun 10, 2016 22:00:46 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 10, 2016 22:00:46 GMT
Some very interesting allies here Martin.
Locally I don't recall anyone conducting a landing with allies but agree there are some interesting opportunities. My own armies are restricted in these capabilities.
I think a Viking 3/40a ally would be useful in this respect as it has 3Bd. Once landed it can move quickly possibly causing issues for your opponent.
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Jun 10, 2016 22:05:25 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 10, 2016 22:05:25 GMT
Not only Zama, but Numidian contingents proved useful during the Spanish and Greek campaigns as well.
Elephants, though historically correct, would pose a slight problem.
Yes, I'm not convinced by elephant as allies. Too many PIPs are required to move things and an ally can absorb PIPs as it is.
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Jun 11, 2016 13:07:23 GMT
Post by martin on Jun 11, 2016 13:07:23 GMT
Some very interesting allies here Martin. Locally I don't recall anyone conducting a landing with allies but agree there are some interesting opportunities. My own armies are restricted in these capabilities. I think a Viking 3/40a ally would be useful in this respect as it has 3Bd. Once landed it can move quickly possibly causing issues for your opponent. III/40a is useful, as you say, though the Vikings usually appear as allies in their III/40b guise, slower 4Bd. m
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Jun 11, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 11, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
I knew that III/40b ally was common, but I thought there was one list that could have a III/40a ally. On checking this morning I can't find it. Looks like I misread it previously.
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Jun 11, 2016 21:43:04 GMT
Post by timurilank on Jun 11, 2016 21:43:04 GMT
I knew that III/40b ally was common, but I thought there was one list that could have a III/40a ally. On checking this morning I can't find it. Looks like I misread it previously. III/18 Breton
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Jun 11, 2016 22:03:54 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 11, 2016 22:03:54 GMT
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Jul 9, 2016 9:28:55 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Jul 9, 2016 9:28:55 GMT
I take a couple of South Welsh 3Lb and the compulsory South Wales Gen (cav) to give a bit of firepower to my North Welsh - although, with the drain on pips, not sure it is worth it! Simon I never considered this option for my North Welsh and the pip drain may not be so bad if you can leave the Lb in a place where all they have to do is contribute by their shooting alone. I have thought to include allies in some of my armies but have never gone as far to include them.My Normans for instance can add a few allies but I would only really choose the II/33 option to add 2 x Cav and a Lh if required as the Army seems to cover the options you can choose from other allies.
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