Post by stevie on Feb 12, 2018 15:38:45 GMT
Well Antigonos (love the name by the way…see fanaticus.boards.net/thread/689/why-antigonos-on-foot ), all I can do is repeat what I have said before:-
The Companions pursue because they are knights.
The Phalangites pursue because they are pikes.
And the Hypaspists, the link between these two arms………?
“Troops are defined by battlefield behaviour instead of the usual formation, armour, weapons and moral classes.”
Do auxiliaries and spears really reflect the battlefield behaviour of Hypaspists?
DBA goes to great pains to make each troop type fight as their historical real-life counterpart, what with 3Kn acting like knights (lots of quick-kills, but likes to pursue), 4Pk acting like pikes (powerful, but weak if disordered by terrain), Ps acting like skirmishers (not very powerful, but hard to kill as they run away from most foot), and so on.
I’m sure that people would complain if elephants and scythed chariots fought exactly the same as cavalry!
So why are elite Hypaspists treated as if they are no more than lowly auxiliaries or ordinary spearmen?
If Spanish Celtiberians can be 3Bd instead of 3/4Ax because they fought better than other Iberians, why can't Hypaspists do the same?
I like my elite troops to fight as elite troops, and be better than normal soldiers.
As DBA has no rules for troop experience (but see fanaticus.boards.net/thread/8/stand-experience ), the next best thing is to use an alternative element type to simulate their performance on our wargames table.
And if the phrase “Blades” carries too much mental baggage with it, then don’t call them that. Call them this instead:-
New Element Type: Elite Foot. These, no matter how they are armed, have a combat factor of 5 against foot, 3 against mounted, 4 if shot at, -2 in close combat in bad going, can kill Kn if they score equal, will pursue enemy foot other than Ps, and all enemy elements treat them as Bd.
(just as CP, CWg and Lit all have elite guards and they too are also treated as Bd, except that these don't pursue or move into contact the enemy).
I often use “Elite Foot” (i.e. Bd) to represent Hannibal’s veterans at Cannae and Zama…not because they abandoned their spears, nor because they used captured Roman equipment, but because they were veterans, and veterans fight better than ordinary spearmen.
Indeed, a case could be made to deploy full Spartan Hoplites as Bd instead of Sp, because they too were Elite and fought better than ordinary Greek Hoplites.
(Having only a combat factor of 3 against mounted instead of 4 like Sp could explain why at the Battle of Plataea in 479 BC the Spartans moved to their left flank to avoid the Persian horsemen, but when the Persian horse also moved to face them they moved back to their original position on the right. The Persian commander Mardonius even gave a speech berating the Spartans for their cowardice to face his Persian horsemen…
…see Herodotus, sections [9.46] to [9.48]: mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Herodotus/Herodotus9.html )
Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, such as the “Quick Reference Sheets” from the Society of Ancients,
and the new “Army List Corrections” file: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And this is the latest January 2018 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2018