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Post by timurilank on Jun 11, 2022 8:27:32 GMT
...the problem of the Slavs was that they did not know the script and had to rely on the chronicles of their enemies, Byzantines or Franks. Once a Muslim Al Masu (895-957) visited the court of Vazlav and described the Bohemians. Rules authors like PB have reinterpreted the characteristics of many armies. in rules like Art de la Guerre and Triumph the same "facts" were adopted. In very many rules, Slav armies do not appear at all. In my HP I try to introduce Slavs and play decisive battles; www.tabletopinzuerich.ch/saga/wenden.html. But these texts are German. Nevertheless, they contain important data... Vodnik, Thank you for the link. I will have a look at it later this weekend.
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Post by vodnik on Jun 11, 2022 9:51:18 GMT
...no problem. Al the battles in that link were fought bay german Wnds. The expresion baltic wends is a creation by PB to describe baltic Slavs. In my HP there are other sections about Bohemian Slavs: slavoc battles + slavoc battles 2 . But again in german language...
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Post by timurilank on Jun 13, 2022 8:34:10 GMT
...no problem. Al the battles in that link were fought bay german Wnds. The expresion baltic wends is a creation by PB to describe baltic Slavs. In my HP there are other sections about Bohemian Slavs: slavoc battles + slavoc battles 2 . But again in german language... Nice looking armies at the two Slavoc links. I found the timeline Das Mährerreich very useful as well. Thanks for the links.
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Post by vodnik on Jun 13, 2022 21:39:41 GMT
...there are a lot of figures you did paint for me in this HP. The big problem of the early Slav was the missing of own chronicles. their enemies did write that. Even worse, christian monks did write most slavic pagan history. There were Franks, Byzantines and Muslimes like Al Masudi. But there are othet textes in the Abbey of Saint Gall. There are more facts about the battle of Lechfeld 930. There were much more slavic fighfers inwolwed then noticet in the frankish anales. Unfortunately the first bohemian chronicles just like public relation fot the ruling dynasty of the Premislides...
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Post by timurilank on Jun 14, 2022 7:55:09 GMT
...there are a lot of figures you did paint for me in this HP. The big problem of the early Slav was the missing of own chronicles. their enemies did write that. Even worse, christian monks did write most slavic pagan history. There were Franks, Byzantines and Muslimes like Al Masudi. But there are othet textes in the Abbey of Saint Gall. There are more facts about the battle of Lechfeld 930. There were much more slavic fighfers inwolwed then noticet in the frankish anales. Unfortunately the first bohemian chronicles just like public relation fot the ruling dynasty of the Premislides... Vodnik,Here are a few more primary sources. The Annales Bertiniani is one of five major independent narrative accounts of the late 9th century. The others are: The Annals of Fulda (838-901) The Annals of St. Vaast (874-900) The Annals of Xanten (832-874) The Chronicle of Regino of Prüm (870-906)
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Post by vodnik on Jun 15, 2022 9:22:34 GMT
...thank you for that links Robert...
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Post by timurilank on Jun 15, 2022 20:23:35 GMT
I had an opportunity to replay the Battle of Utus 447 AD. The original battle report appeared five years ago and since then there have been a number of interesting suggestions presented at the forum.
Re-fighting the battle would offer an opportunity to use the scouting suggestions presented here plus LH adapting a combat feature similar to psiloi.
Tests were played with double size commands (24 elements), two generals and one die. Report and photos will appear at the end of this week.
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Post by timurilank on Jun 18, 2022 8:06:39 GMT
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Post by vodnik on Jun 18, 2022 9:51:41 GMT
...thies battles looks great and the minies even better!!! What size of gaming board did you use?
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Post by timurilank on Jun 18, 2022 10:25:02 GMT
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Post by vodnik on Jun 20, 2022 10:07:00 GMT
...during my DBM-career using 15er minis we use standard 180x120cm tables. But with the introduction i lost my interest of so large games. So i startet with Art de la Guerre and continued playing DBA all the different versions also DBA22+. For ADG you need 120x80cm: standart ADG tableWith the introduckuîon of Triumph it si similar with a smaler table;96x64cm. So my largest battle board is now 120x80cm.Ican use it also for my skirmishgames likeLion Rampant also using 15mm minis: skirmish boardFor the shortenet version of DBMM200 you can use also a ADG table. In Germany they use 120x90cm but 10cm are a free gift...
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Post by timurilank on Jun 20, 2022 11:21:13 GMT
...during my DBM-career using 15er minis we use standard 180x120cm tables. But with the introduction i lost my interest of so large games. So i startet with Art de la Guerre and continued playing DBA all the different versions also DBA22+. For ADG you need 120x80cm: standart ADG tableWith the introduckuîon of Triumph it si similar with a smaler table;96x64cm. So my largest battle board is now 120x80cm.Ican use it also for my skirmishgames likeLion Rampant also using 15mm minis: skirmish boardFor the shortenet version of DBMM200 you can use also a ADG table. In Germany they use 120x90cm but 10cm are a free gift... Vodnik, I do remember the large boards for WRG and DBM from my “World Team Championship” period with games lasting 3 hours. In three hours, we can easily fit three games with 24 elements, but my regular opponent still prefers the smaller game. I do not dabble with other rule sets, but do enjoy the DBA variants for Renaissance and 18th century conflicts, both of which are played on the full mat (180cm x 90cm).
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Post by timurilank on Jun 21, 2022 14:54:41 GMT
Attila continues his tour of the west, another battle report to appear Thursday
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Post by timurilank on Jun 23, 2022 7:28:24 GMT
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Post by vodnik on Jun 23, 2022 8:33:20 GMT
...the pictures look great. But later Attila will actually meet the Visigoths together with the Romans under Aetius...
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