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Post by martin on Jun 30, 2024 22:41:32 GMT
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Post by snowcat on Jul 1, 2024 4:02:54 GMT
I'm struggling to work out the composition of the Norman army. Did it include an ally, e.g. III/33?
Cheers
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Post by menacussecundus on Jul 1, 2024 6:23:43 GMT
I'm struggling to work out the composition of the Norman army. Did it include an ally, e.g. III/33? Cheers Correct in every detail. Here's the list which Martin posted on the Society of Ancients website. *III/52 Normans (in Sicily), 923 to 1072 AD. Aggression 3, Arable topography. 1 x 3Kn......General 3 x 3Kn.....Milites 2 x Cv........Cavalry 1 x Ps.........Archers 2 x 3Ax......Sicilian Greeks/ 'Griffons'. + III/33 EMNAS ally 1 x Cv .......Arab Lancers 2 x Sp........Arab Spearmen
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Post by snowcat on Jul 1, 2024 7:16:31 GMT
Aha, I *was* on the right track. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I tend to stick with them as a Hastings setup: 1 x 3Kn Gen, 3 x 3Kn, 2 x Cv, 3 x 4Bd, 2 x 3Bw, 1 x 3Cb. Thanks.
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Post by martin on Jul 1, 2024 7:27:00 GMT
Here’s my games of DBA at the Midland DBA Open on Saturday:
Snowcat was asking about my land-hungry lot (thanks Denis 👍🏼):- I took Normans* in Italy, with a Muslim Sicilian/north African Arab ally, for their littoral landing option (always a fun scheme, and one I often look for…see game 1).
1- vs Andy W., with Carolingian Franks (III/28), mostly Knights, spears and blades. The Norman’s Muslim Sicilian ally landed on the Franks’ left flank, as the main Norman line edged forward, and after a lot of to and fro action the Muslim littoral landing party knocked out two spear units and the Frankish general for a 3g-0 win.
2- vs Rob R.’s Rajputs (III/10b). Accurate Indian archery KO’d Muslim cavalry and spearmen, preventing the spears from closing them down, and then the enemy elephant centre charged and squished Norman knights and Sicilian Griffons (3Ax), giving Rob a 1-4 win.
3- Invading vs Terry M.’s Carolingians (more Bd-heavy than the previous Franks from game 1). Two enormous patches of plough-land turned to rain-soaked mush on turn one, and I spent a couple of moves struggling out of it. The knights launched upon each other, and a tough battle followed, in which my Kn general carved a path through two units of Frankish swordsmen before surrounding and killing the Frankish general. Norman win 3g-3….tight game!
4- Defending Sicily against a Post-Mongol Samurai invasion (IV/59a), led by the canny Pete D.. We both threw low activation/PIP dice for ages, and when the Norman knights and cavalry support did finally charge they repeatedly failed to break through against archers and swordsmen….more a gentle swell than the required tsunami. Then Ashigaru nibbled at the Norman left flank, and Japanese infantry finally broke up the Norman centre. 4-1 win for Pete.
5- We invaded against Colin A.’s Early Crusaders (IV/7). Our cavalry and spearmen found themselves unable to defeat a resilient pair of Crusader crossbow units, and also the Crusader general, despite surrounding him. The Crusaders countered, tables turned and the Normans crumbled, with my general dying in the rout. Win to Colin, 2-4g.
6- Finally, my Normans attacked Neil M.’s Sargonid Assyrians (I/51). A really tight game, this one: Despite the Norman general being trampled by Neil’s chariot-mounted commander, the remaining Normans clung on and racked up quite a few kills, leading to a final score of 4g-4 to the Assyrians. Near the end Neil thought he’d lost, when it was actually 3g-4… so it was a pleasant surprise for him to continue play and win the day.
Excellently run day, as is the case each time Simon takes the helm. Also, the northern DBA folk are an amiable bunch, making it an enjoyable day, win or lose. I came 14th, against some very nice players, and a fair mix of opposition.
*III/52 Normans (in Sicily), 923 to 1072 AD. Aggression 3, Arable topography. 1 x 3Kn……General 3 x 3Kn…..Milites 2 x Cv……..Cavalry 1 x Ps………Archers 2 x 3Ax……Sicilian Greeks/ ‘Griffons’. + III/33 EMNAS ally 1 x Cv …….Arab Lancers 2 x Sp……..Arab Spearmen
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Post by timr on Jul 30, 2024 14:32:18 GMT
Hi Folks, Possibly had a light horse element jump ship at Bakewell last time out, probably sick of my generalship, if people could have a check it would be much appreciated. They could of course be hiding somewhere to avoid the shame of being associated with me at Britcon Thanks Tim
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Post by Ken Gordon on Jul 31, 2024 8:12:54 GMT
Hi Folks, Possibly had a light horse element jump ship at Bakewell last time out, probably sick of my generalship, if people could have a check it would be much appreciated. They could of course be hiding somewhere to avoid the shame of being associated with me at Britcon Thanks Tim Don’t worry they won’t have gone far you never roll enough pips!
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Post by timr on Jul 31, 2024 12:59:05 GMT
Very true, give them a job or they’ll wander off and entertain themselves
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Post by hodsopa on Jul 31, 2024 13:39:57 GMT
They're probably off sacking a camp (site) somewhere in the Peak District.
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Post by hodsopa on Jul 31, 2024 13:46:29 GMT
PS in the Bakewell museum I read about the elephant that got loose in the town, rampaged for a bit and had to be shot. (Five of its preserved feet exist in the town, apparently, including one in the museum.) Simon, has anyone reported a missing elephant?
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Post by Les1964 on Jul 31, 2024 15:35:58 GMT
(Five of its preserved feet exist in the town, apparently, including one in the museum.) Never seen a 5 footed pachyderm .
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Post by hodsopa on Jul 31, 2024 18:14:37 GMT
Probably should have an extra 1/2 BW for movement.
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