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Post by martin on Dec 6, 2023 9:10:01 GMT
β¦. You can take a camel to water but you can't make it drink. β¦.but you CAN make it swim (1/8b Makkan, from memory) π, from sea to seaside dunes on bound oneβ¦πͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπππππππππ
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Post by hodsopa on Dec 27, 2023 13:07:15 GMT
Now Christmas is over my troops are starting to work off their goat meat and sour wine and get ready for the fray. Keith, can we bring all the terrain options, or do we have to choose one set and use it throughout the day?
Paul H
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Post by berkeley on Dec 27, 2023 13:27:03 GMT
Terrain : bring all options .
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Post by hodsopa on Dec 27, 2023 13:47:10 GMT
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Post by berkeley on Jan 2, 2024 13:53:24 GMT
Ok guys ,see you Saturday
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Post by diades on Jan 2, 2024 18:03:18 GMT
Ok guys ,see you Saturday First time to Slimbridge event. Parking in Pub car park? Do we rely on the Pub for all catering including e.g. coffee? Thanks
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Post by colinthehittite on Jan 3, 2024 7:40:59 GMT
The pub has an adequate car park adjacent to it, just behind the building next to the canal (before the canal). Donβt stop at the car park 100 metres before the pub building. I understand that the spacious room is free to hire but they appreciate custom at the bar where you can get all the usual pub fayre β probably coffee as well. I didnβt realise this the first time I went and brought my lunch but intend to support them on Saturday.
Colin
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 6, 2024 8:08:27 GMT
Reports suggest it's a tad wet in the West Country. Here's hoping those taking part today don't have to make their own littoral landing in order to reach the venue.
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Post by colinthehittite on Jan 7, 2024 7:42:11 GMT
Having won some nice looking Khurasan Miniatures Kushan Indian figures at the Alton DBA tournament last year I hunted through my modest lead pile in order to make up a II/46b Kushan army. This is a multi-cultural mix of central Asians and Indians and an army I have never seen on the wargames table. The only figures I struggled to find were the cataphracts, but QRFβs Armenians are the closest I had (the closest of any except Khurasan themselves if you follow the writings of Gorelik and Nikonorov for Bactrian and Eurasian armies). I finished painting the figures just before Christmas and determined to take them to Slimbridge. The list has small numbers of lots of troop types and so I added a Parthian ally giving a base of 4Kns. Now a much more formidable mix of knights and bad going troop types.
My first game was against Classical Indians β a challenging prospect for any army. Holding back my centre I gained considerable success in a piece of rough going on one enemy flank. This proved too much for the Indians who crumbled from right to left. Next came Parthians, in open terrain! My opponent failed to bring sufficient terrain and so I gave him one of my difficult hills to use as a gentle hill. This nearly led to my downfall when I forgot it was gentle and treated it as BG β my Psiloi died, my flank was suddenly wide open! Yes, you are not the only one who makes silly mistakes. Luckily, I had surrounded his general and on the second attempt managed to destroy it, giving me the game. And so, it went on with; two versions of early Achaemenids, Patrician Romans with a knight based ally and it might have been a Bactrian or something similar. Apart from two games where I suffered the frustration of continually throwing ones, I had mainly close and very enjoyable games.
Interestingly I took several generals and camps which in other tournaments would have gained me extra points helping to differentiate the often similar scores at the end of a tournament. In fact, the scoring system led to another anomaly which, for the few players present who were interested in their UK DBA league positions, caused some frustration. Discussions during and after the tournament will hopefully lead to a tweaking of the scoring system which in future gives just rewards for those who win games.
The weird scoring that was being thrown up was the only issue in an otherwise successful day. The venue is excellent and despite being next to the low lying wildfowl wetlands, below the water level of the adjacent canal and following recent weather, was still above water! I put in a lunch order with a delayed delivery time and it arrived just as I finished my game β perfect! Local players turn up for this gaming day who would not travel to other league tournaments around the country, and I do enjoy playing new gamers. So, thank you Berkeley for providing me with another great day of DBA tabletop mayhem. I look forward to your next event β at one point you looked like winning the tournament but as organiser discounted that possibility. So, did you really win or was it the camel meister who gave his camels a day off?
Colin
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Post by martin on Jan 7, 2024 11:51:49 GMT
The weird scoring that was being thrown up was the only issue in an otherwise successful day. ππΌ
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Post by berkeley on Jan 7, 2024 20:56:19 GMT
Ok , winner gets 9points . Generals and camps score an additional point .
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Post by martin on Jan 7, 2024 22:41:29 GMT
Ok , winner gets 9points . Generals and camps score an additional point . Are there still any deductions for winnerβs elements lost? (like before). Or is it purely 9+C+Gs.? β¦and does the losing playerβs score remain at 1+kills, as before?
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Post by attilathenun on Jan 9, 2024 12:59:12 GMT
This sounds like an interesting thread. What was the scoring system used Keith, and what were you looking to incentivise or reward?
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Post by hodsopa on Jan 9, 2024 13:57:03 GMT
Hi Attila, as a participant in Saturday's Slimbridge tournament - I share Colin's remarks on all the good things about it and its venue - I can have a go at answering your first question, though it's certainly for Keith to answer the second.
Game winners scored 8 points, minus 1 point for each element they lost (excluding hordes and scythed chariots, and with bonuses for generals and camps, as usual).
Game losers scored 1 point, plus 1 point for each element (defined as above) they made the winner lose.
I am not sure what the rule was for draws - as far as I know there weren't any (there was plenty of time).
When Colin speaks of "weird scoring", he may mean the cases when battles were so close that the loser killed 4 elements and the winner had to kill more. For example, in my game against Martin (above), Martin killed my general + 3 other elements. I killed 4 elements of his. Martin was the winner and scored (8-4) = 4 points: I was the loser and scored (1+4) = 5. I share the view that this was an anomaly. Though the game was close, it would have been appropriate, for example, for Martin to have scored a point more than me, not a point less.
Hope this is helpful
Paul H
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Post by Baldie on Jan 9, 2024 18:51:05 GMT
No idea if it would throw out other scores but leave scoring as it was and if winner scores less points than the loser they swap scores.
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