How to make HoTT armies

Ainkatsiss, have a look here for some of my ideas:-
     fanaticus.boards.net/post/43723/ (Sci-Fi HoTT)
     fanaticus.boards.net/post/43893/ (Napoleonic HoTT)

Just let your imagination run riot!

HoTT does have three pages outlining what each troop type represents,
much like DBA, but I generally ignore them. Instead, I go by their abilities
and behaviour, and try to fit these with the troops that I want.
Here are some examples:-

World War Two HoTT
Medium battle tanks are fast, powerful, but vulnerable to infantry bazookas
and panzerfausts, and they are not much good in woods or towns.
HoTT Knights fit these quite well.
German heavy tanks were better, but slower, so HoTT Behemoths seems appropriate.

Most WW2 infantry would be shooters, but the Japanese like to make banzai
bayonet charges, so I’d have these as HoTT Warbands.
Soviet infantry were pretty useless (at least early in the war), but there were
loads of them, so HoTT Hordes fits them well (when destroyed, they can return).

Heavy machine guns and towed anti-tank batteries could be HoTT artillery, while
heavy self-propelled howitzers are magicians (2 PIP’s to move, fast, longer range,
and can hit targets using ‘indirect fire’).

Mechanized infantry (in American half-tracks, British Bren Gun carriers, or German
Sd.Kfz.251) could be HoTT Riders, or even better HoTT Beasts (faster than foot, who
don’t suffer the usual -2 combat penalty in bad going, representing them dismounting).

Fighter are obviously HoTT Flyers, while Bombers are HoTT Airboats (slower than fighters,
but with a fighter escort to explain their higher combat factor than lone fighters).

Sci-Fi HoTT
Apply the above principles…get the abilities you think they should have.

For example, my Larry Niven’s ‘Kzinti’ have telepaths.
How can I represent these?
Well, a telepath can read minds, so he ‘knows’ when a distant attack is coming.
(In HoTT Clerics disrupt distant magical attacks…ideal for the role)

In short, don’t be tied down by what the rules say.
Use a troop type that best fits that particular behaviour.

Thanks guyz. Both of you are always usefull (maybe not the one with the mini figs but... ^^).

I know i have to work a bit more the rules. This will help me to find ways to adapt unit and lore.

The two main issue i have is for tanks. Those able to fire big enough bullet should be able to fire in game, but i'm not sure what could do the job. Artillery ? War Wagon ? Magician ? Maybe both, depending on the type. Fast, light short range tanks could be Kn as you stevie said. Bigger tanks could be War Wagon, they seem to be strong, they fire. Those needed to be more static when firing could be artillery, and indirect firing Magician. That is something like that you are trying to do when "modeling" an army to the rules ?

The other problem, is to deal with shooters. In W40k, quite all basic warriors is a shooter. But using them all as shooters won't make them different from each others. Should i consider none being shooter, assuming that their handweapon are mainly for short range use ? There is only two different type of shooters: bows and shooters. That is few to represent diversity (you should here remember that i'm not try to model one army, but a system of 4-5 armies, so i should find the best way to fit the rules and the lore).

Before going further in my mind storming, both of you have an idea of the warhammer 40k universe ?

I’m afraid I have no knowledge about the Warhammer rules.
I dislike rules where there are more dice on the table than figures!

Yes, in HoTT tanks should be able to shoot at a distance…
…but in DBA so should skirmishers with bows, horse archers,
slingers, and even those armed with javelins.

But DBA and HoTT get around this by assuming ‘close combat’.
So the tanks are actually shooting…just at close range.
(So why do shooters out-range these?…
…maybe in WW2 the bazooka/panzerfaust teams are detached
and concealed out in front of the infantry companies)

It’s all a question of scale…
…both in distance scales and unit size scales.
It’s a ‘army level’ set of rules, not a ‘skirmish’ set.
A general is not concerned with who is at what distance,
just that the men of that particular unit are doing their job.

If you want a precise set of rules, where 88mm guns out-range
75mm guns, then a more detailed set of rules is required.

HoTT is not meant to be a specific WW2, or Sci-Fi, or Napoleonic set
of rules. It’s just an abstract quick-to-play fun set of universal rules,
played at an army level scale.

Your imagination has to do some of the work.

You may find this helpful.

ermtony.pbworks.com/w/page/14871506/HOTT%20Science%20Fiction

Simon