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Post by Brian Ború on Aug 27, 2022 17:23:42 GMT
The dunes Two 7mm boards of styrofoam, glued together, shaped and coated with sand and acrylic colour. Yep, there are dunes in Ireland!
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Post by Brian Ború on Aug 28, 2022 7:30:46 GMT
A different approach to modelling dunes Stone effect paste on styrofoam. Unpainted this would fit nicely into an extra terrestrial scenery...
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Post by carll on Aug 29, 2022 0:12:03 GMT
So Brian, different types of dunes in Ireland - windswept ripples (south and north coast with shift winds?) and almost cliff edge drop off !!(west coast?) (Just teasing.) Both look good. Two useful diy ideas. Its one of those that's difficult to model vis a vis how tall the figures are, IMHO. Too tall (but in proportion to real life humans) and they can look mountainous, too small and they look like road bumps. Mind I recall reading about a modern battle in 1921 Iraq where even six feet tall sand dunes gave observation points in a flat landscape and (in context of modern rifles) a good firing position. Of course the other problem is colour as sand varies greatly in colour across our globe (I have not had pleasure of visiting Ireland and seeing beaches or sandy salt marshes in Ireland so no idea what colour they appear.) CarlL
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Post by Brian Ború on Aug 29, 2022 7:16:58 GMT
The second set is painted. These dunes are much smaller and go very well with 6mm or even 2mm miniatures. Using the stone effect paste I found it very hard to create bigger dunes. @ CarlL: Thank you, modelling dunes is indeed very challenging. I always try to get the right look in relation to my minis but I also like it when they don't topple too much in terrain. At first I thought about building one (!) dune per piece, just for the look, but then I found this to be no good in gameplay... At some windswept coasts in Ireland there are indeed magnificent dunes, but neither I have seen them in reality yet. Cheers Brian
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 9, 2022 10:29:43 GMT
A modular waterway in five parts, each five BW long The plan Material: Stone effect paste, grass mats, paper, acrylic colour, water colours and model water on 4mm styrofoam.
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Post by timurilank on Sept 9, 2022 12:08:04 GMT
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 9, 2022 13:39:13 GMT
Nice work. Very impressive!
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Post by carll on Sept 9, 2022 18:58:48 GMT
I like the planning Brian Boru and timurilank, and thanks for link to your very effective painted pieces timurilank.
Given the sand dunes build I wonder if Brian has a more 3D approach in mind? Although there was nothing in the plan to suggest 3D rather than a more 2D approach like timurilank's successful work.
I suppose both 3D and 2D have possible problems with warping?
Although I have not used vinyl tile like material for model making so I don't know how good it is on not warping (as this was timurilanks material); while my own experiments with styrofoam sheets have been limited to house / defensive walls or big blocks for ramps and defensive walls all stuck down to mdf or hardboard; and hardboard isn't most reliable of basing materials when it comes to avoiding warping.
Best wishes with your build(s). CarlL
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 10, 2022 16:31:48 GMT
The painted and sanded pieces of my waterways are drying. Next I'll paint the parts of brown stone effect paste in the same light yellow as the dunes ...
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 10, 2022 16:44:25 GMT
I like the planning Brian Boru and timurilank, and thanks for link to your very effective painted pieces timurilank. Given the sand dunes build I wonder if Brian has a more 3D approach in mind? Although there was nothing in the plan to suggest 3D rather than a more 2D approach like timurilank's successful work. I suppose both 3D and 2D have possible problems with warping? Although I have not used vinyl tile like material for model making so I don't know how good it is on not warping (as this was timurilanks material); while my own experiments with styrofoam sheets have been limited to house / defensive walls or big blocks for ramps and defensive walls all stuck down to mdf or hardboard; and hardboard isn't most reliable of basing materials when it comes to avoiding warping. Best wishes with your build(s). CarlL Yes, 3d is quite important to me. A great (nice) part of wargaming is about getting things look right ... No, warping is no problem with these 4mm sheets of styrofoam. These thin plates are used in buildings for isolating walls inside. Their structure is much finer than that of the big plates used outside ... On one side they are painted white, so that you can put tapestry on them or paint them. I hope my water colours stay on this surface ...
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 11, 2022 14:47:27 GMT
A squadron on patrol in a light breeze. The sand has dried. The parts are ready for the model water, the last step.
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Post by carll on Sept 11, 2022 19:34:55 GMT
Looks beautiful work, well done Brian Boru! CarlL
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 17, 2022 10:45:33 GMT
Now the model water has dried completely. It took a VERY LONG time! But it was worth waiting.
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Post by carll on Sept 18, 2022 19:29:16 GMT
WOW x MEGA wow, great finish Brian.
Did you slap it on thick like previously to get this effect (hence slow drying)?? CarlL
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Post by Brian Ború on Sept 19, 2022 8:39:18 GMT
WOW x MEGA wow, great finish Brian. Did you slap it on thick like previously to get this effect (hence slow drying)?? CarlL Thanks! I followed the instructions on the bottle and made the layer not more than 2mm thick. I think the drying took so much longer than 24 hours because the model water was put on plastics (kind of styrofoam). The train modellers normally use paper and cardboard to shape their landscapes.
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