The pros and cons are covered well by Scott Russell in the thread. I was initially reluctant to ‘go 20mm’, but have done so now, as it fits my view of historicity of base sizes (in general) and playability overall (and glad I did). As he comments, there is a possibility of being destroyed more easily on a 20mm base, but for me ease of play wins.
So it is agreed that 20mm HI basing gives an advantage when compared to 15mm basing. Now we must recognise that most wargamers, especially competitive wargamers, are keen advocates of min/maxing to enhance their chance of winning. If they can get an advantage they’ll take it! That’s why we pour over Army lists! Finally, as a DBA community, we must recognise that we hang on every word or stroke of the pen in the Purple Book. The words of Barker are indeed law!
With this in mind we should ask ourselves what he meant by: “Players should keep as closely as possible to the minimum depths. Larger alternatives are to accommodate figures based for other rule sets or over-large figures.” Did he mean:
“Larger basing alternatives are equally as valid as any other and therefore should be the de facto choice for all competition games if they grant a tactical advantage.” …..because that is where we are now!
You may be looking through the wrong end of the telescope Paddy.
I certainly don’t think his Holiness Phil Barker intended to say:- “You must fit your figures on these sized bases, and if they won’t fit then you can’t use these rules”. Or “Boycott figure manufactures who’s figures won’t fit, and refuse to buy their products”.
He is just facing reality and recognizing that some figures today won’t fit on bases designed in the 1970’s. So, rather than turn people away, he is trying to accommodate them. And the fact that 20mm deep HI bases has a slight advantage over 15mm deep ones is just an unforeseen side effect...not a deliberate design feature.
But as I said before, all is not lost. If this is considered to be a major issue then:- (a) if you have heavy foot on 20mm deep bases, they still recoil 15mm. ---OR ALTERNATIVELY--- (b) If you have heavy foot on 15mm deep bases, they will recoil 20mm.
That way everybody will be treated equally.
Last Edit: Apr 22, 2022 21:56:18 GMT by stevie: ...much like BUA's and Camps with curved edges are slightly better than straight edges...or should these be banned?...
Nope Stevie, that’s the same view I have! I was pointing out where the current interpretation of that rule actually puts us, even if PB wrote it with good intentions. Also, so far I am alone in supporting your rule suggestions which would address the issue. It would be great to hear from others.