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Post by jim1973 on Oct 17, 2021 8:14:19 GMT
I am very excited about these paints for 15mm painters. I've watched a few YouTube videos so far. I do a block paint and a wash with very limited drybrushing and no highlighting. Even then the wash is worth it but the drybrush is really difficult to justify on 15mm. These paints however, could make 15mm pop with minimal effort on a white primer. Also, the white primer generally means brighter, which help 15mm no end. Looking forward to trying them out! Army Painter Speed Paints
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Post by paulisper on Oct 17, 2021 12:52:25 GMT
Interesting stuff... I'm not sure how well they'll work on 15mm, unless there's a lot of detail and creases on the minis, but it will be fascinating to try these out.
Having watched a couple of YouTube tutorials on them, I see that they may still work with my black priming and white drybrush approach and could be good for working on big areas, such as on horses and leather, and reducing the need for washes here...
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Post by greedo on Oct 18, 2021 18:41:44 GMT
Interesting! I've been using GW Contrast paints on my 28mm stuff with great results (maybe a bit of highlighting + details required).
I was about to try it on 15mm, but interested that Army Painter is getting in on the game. Would be interested in a comparison.
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Post by decebalus on Oct 20, 2021 14:06:31 GMT
There are already some comparisons between Contrast paints and Speed paints on Youtube. It seems, that they are more or less the same. Because every colour from the Contrast paints works different, you obviously have to test individual colours for your needs.
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Post by greedo on Oct 20, 2021 15:13:32 GMT
There are already some comparisons between Contrast paints and Speed paints on Youtube. It seems, that they are more or less the same. Because every colour from the Contrast paints works different, you obviously have to test individual colours for your needs. That is definitely true. The brown + flesh tones (and some greens) work GREAT. The blues and reds.... eh, kinda, but not as AMAZING. You still have to highlight the blue and red a little bit. They have worked wonders for my 28mm Vikings & Anglo Saxons. Burned through 24 within a couple of weeks. Will test them on 15mm skirmishers soon, and will report back. (Contrast. Haven't tried the Army Painter yet) |
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Post by ammianus on Jan 17, 2022 19:09:04 GMT
I am very excited about these paints for 15mm painters. I've watched a few YouTube videos so far. I do a block paint and a wash with very limited drybrushing and no highlighting. Even then the wash is worth it but the drybrush is really difficult to justify on 15mm. These paints however, could make 15mm pop with minimal effort on a white primer. Also, the white primer generally means brighter, which help 15mm no end. Looking forward to trying them out! Army Painter Speed Paints
Cheers Jim Youtube videos look pretty impressive; maybe just the thing for lousy painters like me ! |
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Post by jim1973 on Feb 10, 2022 12:14:37 GMT
Just had my very first try with these and ... hmmm... Here are my thoughts after some 15mm Essex Immortals.
The minis were primed before I had any intention to use speed paints. Though good enough to provide some tooth for regular painting, they were not a smooth uniform white. These dulled the colours. So if your looking at these paints, a uniform solid white will be your friend, particularly for bright colours.
They work as intended. They flow amazing well. Block colours are applied really quickly. They show why you should thin your paints. But they bleed over detail. So you need to be strategic about them. I don't see them useful for details (e.g. belts) and probably are overkill for flat surfaces (e.g shields). You'll still need your standard paints
They provide shading but this is subtle at 15mm unless the figures are particularly detailed. Highlights are even more subtle.
The colour palette will be limited. But should include most basics. However, I'm still wary of the skin tone.
In summary I'm not sure about them for Ancients. But I think more uniform armies (e.g. Napoleonic, ACW, WW2, etc) will be better suited as you can block out the basic colours very quickly. My next tests will be with 18mm AB British Napoleonics and 32mm Zombicide miniatures.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by paulisper on Feb 10, 2022 14:27:25 GMT
Interesting take, Jim. I’ve ordered the Mega set, due in just over a month’s time and it’s going to be fascinating to see if my thoughts mirror yours. My plan is to prime black and dry brush white, as I usually do, before applying them (in effect a Zenithal-style). Not sure what effect this will create…
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Post by gregorius on Feb 10, 2022 20:31:36 GMT
Interesting take, Jim. I’ve ordered the Mega set, due in just over a month’s time and it’s going to be fascinating to see if my thoughts mirror yours. My plan is to prime black and dry brush white, as I usually do, before applying them (in effect a Zenithal-style). Not sure what effect this will create… P All of the YouTube videos I've seen which test the Army Painter Speedpaints have been used on 28mm or larger figures. And they all say the same thing, that Speedpaints are the bees knees. So it will be interesting to see what your experience with 15mm figures will be Paul. Cheers, |
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Post by paulisper on Feb 10, 2022 21:14:24 GMT
It’s true and I’ve also been aware that all the videos have focussed on bigger figures than we generally deal with in our great game. How this translates to smaller scales will, indeed, be fascinating 🧐
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Post by chaotic on Feb 10, 2022 21:19:40 GMT
My plan is to prime black and dry brush white, as I usually do, before applying them (in effect a Zenithal-style). Not sure what effect this will create… P My (limited) experience with this kind of paint suggests you get the best out of them by undercoating in bright white. I tried to use them on some black-undercoated, white dry brushed minis and the result was very disappointing. |
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Post by jim1973 on Feb 11, 2022 2:54:26 GMT
I agree totally that they are mostly designed for 28mm and above. in 15mm, I think a lot will come down to the miniatures themselves. More detailed minis, particularly with sharp, deep detail will probably work better than flatter minis. That's why I'm looking forward to the AB miniatures.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by eg407 on Mar 16, 2022 10:02:25 GMT
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Post by Ken Gordon on Mar 20, 2022 12:08:42 GMT
I’ve just got the starter set and the colours are bright and cover well- cloaks and flesh etc look good. I’ve only just tried them out on a couple of scrap figs but first efforts show me I’ll need more brush control to avoid overspill of colours. I also need to experiment with mixing colours to get some variation. Also found they dried quickly on my palette (dry). I think maybe they might be more useful for quick painting horses or some biblical armies with limited colour choice, I might try them on my Lybians waiting in the queue.
The sledgehammer approach is interesting but again as others have said they seem to work well on larger figures and I think manufacturer choice will be a big factor - For example I can see them working well on magister militum (chariot) but maybe not essex, which could be a problem if you like to mix.
For me the jury is still out.
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Post by Les1964 on Mar 20, 2022 12:32:26 GMT
The sledgehammer approach is interesting but again as others have said they seem to work well on larger figures and I think manufacturer choice will be a big factor - For example I can see them working well on magister militum (chariot) but maybe not essex, which could be a problem if you like to mix. |
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