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Post by elliesdad on Aug 27, 2021 21:01:09 GMT
That’s impressive. Thanks for putting in all the effort.
Now, if only someone made medieval Vietnamese figures…
Thanks again,
Geoff
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Post by Haardrada on Aug 28, 2021 10:04:45 GMT
Fantastic work Kaiphranos, I'm still taking in so much information and I am really surprised armies such as Palmyran,Sassanid Persian,Mithridatic,Medieval German and Southern Sung are not more popular.
I also noticed that Asian armies didn't score highly either, I thought the Warring States Ch'in,the later Southern Sung and T'ang armies would be fairly popular armies.
Again many thanks for your efforts.🙂
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Post by paulhannah on Sept 4, 2021 17:13:32 GMT
Now, if only someone made medieval Vietnamese figures… I've suggested the range to Khurasan Miniatures and got a slightly curt reply that he already does! He feels the range could be built from his Sung Chinese range. He has a point, i.e., that the "Chinese influenced" figures could be drawn from his Sung range. The native Vietnamese militia figures in their distinctive, leather-covered caps, I think, remain problematic. //Paul |
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Post by elliesdad on Sept 4, 2021 19:48:48 GMT
Now, if only someone made medieval Vietnamese figures… I've suggested the range to Khurasan Miniatures and got a slightly curt reply that he already does! He feels the range could be built from his Sung Chinese range. He has a point, i.e., that the "Chinese influenced" figures could be drawn from his Sung range. The native Vietnamese militia figures in their distinctive, leather-covered caps, I think, remain problematic. //Paul Thanks Paul. I really, really do like the Khurasan Sung, especially the armoured troops. My main negative is that I always imagine (due to the heat) the Vietnamese warriors wouldn’t be so heavily armoured. That’s just my guess though. I did a quick check on Google, but didn’t find anything especially helpful. As ever, I do have more potential projects than will ever make it into the table-top in my lifetime. I’m probably more likely to go with a generic collection of spear or sword armed Chinese & assorted south-east Asian warriors suitable for all the way up to the Tonkin War. That way it’s only the musket/rifle armed troops and artillery that is additionally needed for the Tonkin War. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by paulhannah on Sept 5, 2021 1:46:44 GMT
Yes, absent a dedicated Medieval Vietnamese range, I think one certainly has carte blanche to go with a "TLAR" approach. ("That Looks About Right") I've been pondering doing that with Essex figures, utilizing many of the Generic Chinese types for the Viet militia types.
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Post by Les1964 on Sept 5, 2021 9:35:26 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Sept 5, 2021 9:40:57 GMT
Yes, absent a dedicated Medieval Vietnamese range, I think one certainly has carte blanche to go with a " TLAR" approach. ("That Looks About Right") I've been pondering doing that with Essex figures, utilizing many of the Generic Chinese types for the Viet militia types. Out of interest would any of the Outpost Miniatures fit any of the Medieval Vietnamese troop types? Their early Samurai have a foot spearmen in a shaped hat and there Khmer,Burmese,Tang and Manchurian ranges might have other suitable figures?I've used several Outpost castings in my Hindu,Rajput,Timurid and Hsuing nu armies and they fit quite well with Essex miniatures. |
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Post by mwise on Sept 5, 2021 9:55:31 GMT
If you wish to do the Medieval Vietnamese period you should do a Google search under “Dai Viet” for the Medieval Vietnam armies and another search can also be completed under "Tran Dynasty”. I have a large collection of images and these deal with the distinct type of Square Hats, infantry armour, Cavalry Helmets and some armour & elephants. I have previously sent these to Khurasan Miniatures, after being asked to do so by Mr. P. Hannah.
The Peter Pig miniatures are not the same as the medieval period. If anyone wishes to see the source material, send me a PM with your e-mail details and I will forward the information.
Regards
Mark
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Post by elliesdad on Sept 5, 2021 12:23:25 GMT
Thanks y’all.
Paul - TLAR… I’d probably settle for the figures just not looking wrong (so fairly generic southeast Asian warriors maybe bare chested, maybe in a simple jacket and either in loincloth or trousers (quite short?).
Lesp1964 - thanks for the tip. I’d entirely overlooked these fellas.
Haardrada - I have some Outpost figures in my lead mountain. Exactly where in the lead mountain is another issue. I do have some Grumpy figures too - I’d forgotten about those.
Mark - PM sent. Thanks.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by paulhannah on Jan 30, 2022 18:21:21 GMT
I really, really do like the Khurasan Sung, especially the armoured troops. My main negative is that I always imagine (due to the heat) the Vietnamese warriors wouldn’t be so heavily armoured. I'm warming to Khurasan's assertion that he already makes a III/60 Medieval Vietnamese range, i.e., within his Sung Chinese range. His Zhuang Tribal Allies militia look the part of native Vietnamese Militia ( 4Ax) and the Zhuang Tribal Allies Skirmishers as the militia archers ( Ps). For what it's worth, Wikipedia says the Zhuang people "trace their lineage to the Lạc Việt people." So, maybe not much of a stretch to use them as Vietnamese. The "Chinese-influenced standing army of court troops" ( Cv Gen, 4Bd and 4Cb/4Bw) could all be drawn from Sung regulars in the Khurasan line. That leaves just the Jumbos... |
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Post by Simon on Jan 30, 2022 18:43:41 GMT
Well, that's a more philosophical question.  It probably comes down to people who enjoy a challenge, either playing as an underdog, or converting suitable figures, or digging up obscure sources... I guess there are many reasons people might choose to play DBA (or indeed any wargame) and these might be one or more of the following depending on the individual: Competing against yourself Competing against others Socialising with others Historical research/interest Modelling/painting miniatures Cheers Simon |
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It probably comes down to people who enjoy a challenge, either playing as an underdog, or converting suitable figures, or digging up obscure sources...