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Post by Haardrada on Jun 5, 2020 23:20:04 GMT
Can anyone tell me if 15mm Alternative armies Medieval are compatable with Mirliton miniatures or Essex miniatures please?
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Post by goragrad on Jun 6, 2020 2:32:55 GMT
Have some figures that I believe to be Mirliton (second hand) as they have SG on the bases and codes that match...
Much more of an 18 than a 15 as are the Alternatives.
Some Essex foot might be relatively close (Essex figures have more size variation), but the mounted are definitely larger.
Definitely not what I would put on the same base.
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Post by Roland on Jun 6, 2020 3:45:12 GMT
Can anyone tell me if 15mm Alternative armies Medieval are compatable with Mirliton miniatures or Essex miniatures please? Short answer: yes
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Post by Roland on Jun 6, 2020 3:47:45 GMT
Most Mirliton are actually rather delicate. If anything, Essex will be the larger of the 3 brands ( but only barely). My Burgundians and Swiss are a Mix of Essex, Mirliton, and Alternative Armies ( Medus). You will have no problems
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Post by goragrad on Jun 6, 2020 6:33:08 GMT
Unfortunately I am 350 miles (highway) from my collection at the moment, but I beg to differ Roland.
At least with respect to the Condottieri range.
Haven't coded all of the Mirliton figures that I picked up from M. Sanderson, but some of the figures are from the Condottieri range that I did ID and were more of a match for Rank and File.
Won't be back till Tuesday at which time I could open the Communal Italian and Teutonic army boxes to see how they compare.
Obviously from your picture the Swiss are close and the Burgundians are from the same range, but without examining them I wouldn't be sure of any of the other lines.
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Post by martin on Jun 6, 2020 9:16:26 GMT
Can anyone tell me if 15mm Alternative armies Medieval are compatable with Mirliton miniatures or Essex miniatures please? Paddy Green uses AA /15mm.co.uk... I’ll nudge. Personally, as I have 15mm.co.uk ancients/dark ages, I’d say ‘beware’. I wouldn’t mix them with Essex on the same base. Mirliton, I cannot say.
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Post by Roland on Jun 6, 2020 12:58:41 GMT
Unfortunately I am 350 miles (highway) from my collection at the moment, but I beg to differ Roland. At least with respect to the Condottieri range. Haven't coded all of the Mirliton figures that I picked up from M. Sanderson, but some of the figures are from the Condottieri range that I did ID and were more of a match for Rank and File. Won't be back till Tuesday at which time I could open the Communal Italian and Teutonic army boxes to see how they compare. Obviously from your picture the Swiss are close and the Burgundians are from the same range, but without examining them I wouldn't be sure of any of the other lines. I'm literally staring at all 3 brands on the painting bench side by side. If we could post pictures here I show finished stands with Essex and Militon and Medus all on the base. Biggest problem many brands have ( and Essex is exceptionally good about) is consistency of scale. I'm sure you can find the odd Medus cavalry rider that is a bit runty, however, taken together they all mix pretty well. The Burgundian Ordonnance on my blog is almost exclusively Essex and Mirliton ( with the odd OG model sneaking in) My Early Swiss on the bench is a healthy mix of Medus ( AA) and Essex with the odd Corvus Belli slipping in. (even managed to make Legio Herioca dismounted Lances work for me by basing them separately)
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Post by paddy649 on Jun 7, 2020 8:26:43 GMT
Can anyone tell me if 15mm Alternative armies Medieval are compatable with Mirliton miniatures or Essex miniatures please? Paddy Green uses AA /15mm.co.uk... I’ll nudge. Personally, as I have 15mm.co.uk ancients/dark ages, I’d say ‘beware’. I wouldn’t mix them with Essex on the same base. Mirliton, I cannot say. Thanks for the nudge Martin. Yes AA are compatible with Essex and you can use them on the same base. Essex foot are slightly larger and chunkier, so I often use these as the REMF or stout commanders etc. Mounted are slightly different and mixing would be more noticeable. AA horses are smaller and highly stylised while Essex horses tend to be a little oversized. Great if you mix AA supports with Essex knights but not vice versa. You may need to be more picky with the mounted. Otherwise AA are a good company to deal with and supply quickly even during lockdown. Figures arrive with some flash and some problems with older moulds. I always replace spears etc. Check for missing legs and feet and/or order 1 or 2 spares. Regret I can’t comment on Mirliton. Hope that helps.
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Post by goragrad on Jun 7, 2020 10:59:28 GMT
Again, Roland, the Mirliton Swiss and Burgundians, based on your pictures appear to be comaptible (my Mirliton Swiss are not to hand).
Based on the figures I have from the Condotta range, that range is not. With that in mind I want to pull out the figures that I have for the other Mirliton ranges before venturing to pronounce them compatible (I do have some or the 15mm Mirliton fantasy range and find them to be compatible with AA and Essex).
I have worked with enough of the AA Lines to to be able to state that they are pretty consistent in size across the ranges. Particularly the old TTG lines. Vikings, Saxons, Arabs, and Normans were done be a different sculptor so vary a bit from the TTG Medus range. The Renaissance are Asgard and may vary a bit as well.
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Post by martin on Jun 7, 2020 14:19:03 GMT
Paddy Green uses AA /15mm.co.uk... I’ll nudge. Personally, as I have 15mm.co.uk ancients/dark ages, I’d say ‘beware’. I wouldn’t mix them with Essex on the same base. Mirliton, I cannot say. Thanks for the nudge Martin. Yes AA are compatible with Essex and you can use them on the same base. Essex foot are slightly larger and chunkier, so I often use these as the REMF or stout commanders etc. Mounted are slightly different and mixing would be more noticeable. AA horses are smaller and highly stylised while Essex horses tend to be a little oversized. Great if you mix AA supports with Essex knights but not vice versa. You may need to be more picky with the mounted. Otherwise AA are a good company to deal with and supply quickly even during lockdown. Figures arrive with some flash and some problems with older moulds. I always replace spears etc. Check for missing legs and feet and/or order 1 or 2 spares. Regret I can’t comment on Mirliton. Hope that helps. Thanks Paddy.....that’s it, it's the horses. That makes sense. They ARE smaller, giving an overall height-challenged look.
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Post by Roland on Jun 7, 2020 15:01:25 GMT
One trick you can use to help mix in height challenged equestrian models is to shim the bases with a bit of plasticard on the undersized models. It won't address bulk discrepancies but its usually enough to prevent them from sticking out in a crowd of larger models
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Post by paddy649 on Jun 7, 2020 16:00:58 GMT
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Post by Cromwell on Jun 8, 2020 7:55:50 GMT
I believe that unless the size difference is too disproportionate having figures of slightly different build can add to a more realistic look. After all not everyone can have, like I have, the body of Adonis.
My 28mm ECW armies are made up of a mix of Irregular miniatures, Perry and Warlord. The only thing with these I do not do is mix Irregular horse with Warlord. The Irregular Horse looks diminutive and more pony like when together.
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