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Post by wyvern on Jun 2, 2020 10:15:46 GMT
I am thinking of painting a Feudal English army as my next project. Are there any good painting resources out there?Was heraldry in use much at this time? Many thanks, Paul.
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Post by Roland on Jun 2, 2020 12:50:13 GMT
I am thinking of painting a Feudal English army as my next project. Are there any good painting resources out there?Was heraldry in use much at this time? Many thanks, Paul. The resources for a Feudal English host are nearly limitless in the internet age. First thing I would do is decide approximately what year or approximate era of English army you want to render. Early armies, those of the era of St. Stephen and Mathilda are still the era of chainmail and before the age of heraldry. Shields are still painted in a decorative style at this time with geometric patterns and mythical beasts and surcoats are just coming into fashion and are of simple colors. The era of high heraldic interest starts in the 13th Century and is going full steam during the Second Barons War and the Scottish Wars of Independence. In addition to books a plenty for the period there are some great armorial rolls from the Scottish Wars that you can get a feel for the exact coat of arms for the participants. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_of_arms
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Post by wyvern on Jun 2, 2020 15:53:37 GMT
Thanks for the reply Roland. I'm looking at late 12th century. Where would we be without the internet?: ) I would rely like some Legio Heroica minis and hope to do them justice. Cheers Paul
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Post by Roland on Jun 3, 2020 12:08:03 GMT
So you're looking at the English of Henry II, and his sons Richard and John. Heraldry as we think of it was in its very infancy at this point. Richard I was the first English monarch to employ the specific heraldry of the 3 leopards on a field gu. Kite shields, while still used are disappearing during this period.
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Post by timurilank on Jun 5, 2020 5:20:02 GMT
Paul, Legio Heroica are excellent figures, all my later medieval armies and later 17th c. armies are from them. If you do not have the book already, I would recommend Armies of Feudal Europe 1000 – 1300 by Ian Heath.
As Roland mentioned, heraldry and its registration was just beginning, but the book will put you on the right track for possible shield and pennon patterns.
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Post by macbeth on Jun 5, 2020 5:32:46 GMT
Paul, I used this website for my Feudal English and Feudal French back in the day - earlyblazon.com/Worth noting that the Feudal English begins in the reign of Henry II - Stephen and Mathilde are still in the Anglo Norman list Cheers
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Post by Cromwell on Jun 5, 2020 7:55:56 GMT
I am reading about Edward I at the moment and I am getting into the thought I may like to explore the Civil War with Simon De Montfort.
I have been looking at the Irregular Miniatures range of figures. Not sure what scale yet.
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Post by goragrad on Jun 5, 2020 9:41:32 GMT
Ave wyvern - If you do not have access to a copy of 'Armies of Feudal Europe 1000 – 1300,' there are some excerpts at this site - warfare.ga/index.htm?i=1I believe Heath (and other authors) may derive some benefit from the site - at least Duncan Head has linked to it on numerous occasions. There are also copyrights on the illustrations and links to original sources for them that were not in the book indicating that they are not just scans.
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Post by gregorius on Jun 5, 2020 23:51:55 GMT
Paul, I used this website for my Feudal English and Feudal French back in the day - earlyblazon.com/Worth noting that the Feudal English begins in the reign of Henry II - Stephen and Mathilde are still in the Anglo Norman list Cheers David, I was unaware of this site. Thanks for posting the link and I've bookmarked it for for my future Feudal English army. Cheers,
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Post by Cromwell on Jun 6, 2020 7:40:12 GMT
Thanks for the link. This will be very useful.
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