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Post by greedo on Nov 16, 2019 7:46:37 GMT
I was reading an account of one of the Ionian Revolt battles, and the numbers they were giving, and this is from "Hoplites at War" by Paul Bardunias, which I highly recommend...
Anyway, the number of Sparabara present was around 5000, and the number of Lydians was around 3000 (and Cav, light troops etc.). I am of course assuming that Lydians count as Hoplites for these battles, and given their reputation as awesome fighters, I'm ok with it. Also assuming no numbers, and that 1 element represents roughtly 1/12 of the total army. AND further assuming that this battle who's name eludes me, was more than a single engagement.
Now assuming that 60c gets 4x8Bw, then the number of 4Sp they should get (or at least have available as a choice) is 2x4Sp in my view. Perhaps as an option in place of the 3Ax. So you could do ...1x4Sp, 1x(3Ax or 4Sp)...
This would do two things: It would give the EAP 60c army enough mercenary hoplites to be historically accurate, but from a game perspective, it would make the 4Sp more powerful since they could then be placed together and get the +1 side support. A bit cheesy perhaps, but with 8Bw being so weak, they might need it! That is of course unless dropping HI down 1 comes into vogue (still have to test that idea, but I like it so far). And even if you do drop HI down 1, then the 3Ax is a decent choice to make instead of the Lydians since you can go for speed and rough terrain fighting, or slow by steadier HI.
What do people think or has this addition already been thought of?
Chris
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Post by nangwaya on Nov 16, 2019 10:53:44 GMT
I think if your research points you in that direction then I think it is a great idea to house rule a change for an army composition. I know that I will be doing the same thing for certain armies I am reading up on, and just have to remember that I can't bring any of these house rule tweaked armies to a tournament 
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Post by primuspilus on Nov 18, 2019 4:17:19 GMT
I think the single 4Sp represents a kind of long run aggregate of battles where perhaps the hoplite allies were few in number, or performed poorly. But your idea makes a ton of sense for Medising Greeks at Plataea, say!
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