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Post by Baldie on Oct 28, 2019 7:06:19 GMT
Please dont make me join Facebook. Glad went the day well for everyone.
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Post by menacussecundus on Oct 28, 2019 7:54:21 GMT
Thanks to everyone who came today, we had 14 players in total. Full results to follow later, but the main results were as follows: Group 1 - 1st William MacGillivray, 2nd Lindon Paxton Group 2 - 1st Richard Pulley, 2nd Peter Ellis Semi-finals - William MacGillivray beat Peter Ellis, Richard Pulley lost to Lindon Paxton Final - William MacGillivray beat Lindon Paxton So the 2019 English DBA Open Champion is (ahem) me Congratulations, Bill. And am I right in thinking that cgothicus is the 2018/19 League champion?
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Post by paulisper on Oct 28, 2019 10:47:45 GMT
Please dont make me join Facebook. Glad went the day well for everyone. You'll love it - loads of great stuff on there 😉 P
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Post by pawsbill on Oct 28, 2019 14:55:17 GMT
Thanks to everyone who came today, we had 14 players in total. Full results to follow later, but the main results were as follows: Group 1 - 1st William MacGillivray, 2nd Lindon Paxton Group 2 - 1st Richard Pulley, 2nd Peter Ellis Semi-finals - William MacGillivray beat Peter Ellis, Richard Pulley lost to Lindon Paxton Final - William MacGillivray beat Lindon Paxton So the 2019 English DBA Open Champion is (ahem) me Congratulations, Bill. And am I right in thinking that cgothicus is the 2018/19 League champion? Yes he is, final scores (top 25) at portsmouthwargames.wordpress.com/society-of-ancients-uk-dba-league/2018-19-scores/
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Post by pawsbill on Oct 28, 2019 14:57:21 GMT
Where will pictures be posted for this and other comps , now Yahoo is no longer available ? Probably Facebook, I guess.....any other choices? A lot of other Yahoo groups are moving to Groups.io, which has similar functionality.
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Post by paddy649 on Oct 28, 2019 17:17:02 GMT
Well done Bill.
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Post by arnopov on Oct 28, 2019 22:32:14 GMT
Congratulations to Pawsbill and Cgothicus!! And thanks to Bill and Lindon for the organisation. I'll post some analyses later, but it was great! It was nice to be able to play 7 games.
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Post by paddy649 on Oct 28, 2019 23:36:47 GMT
What armies did everyone use?
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Post by martin on Oct 29, 2019 8:50:26 GMT
Bill
Any Society of Ancients Championship games? I see a few SoA members attended (Martin M, Mark S, Phil S, Arnaud M, yourself....) ?
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Post by cgothicus on Oct 29, 2019 19:49:43 GMT
Congratulations and thanks to Bill for organising and winning the English Open. Commiserations to Lyndon, his third final in four PAWS competitions (I think), an impressive achievement. Certainly his (7-2 or was it 9-2?) defeat of my mighty Aztec army will live long in my memory. Thanks also the Sciety of Ancients and Phil Steele in particular for sponsoring the UK DBA league. Join here soa.org.uk/joomla/ . Also to Bill again for doing or the number crunching. New season starts in Tarrington soon!
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Post by diades on Nov 1, 2019 17:15:34 GMT
All seems very quiet...
Thank you and congratulations to Bill and Lindon.
A few thoughts...
I took the d option Cypriot/Phoenician army. 2 Cavalry including general, 7 spear, 2 Psiloi and an artillery. They are (usually) resilient, but not endowed with many quick kills. As it happens we all got to play SEVEN games in the round robin group stage. It made the trip well worth it, but meant that games were only 40 minutes in total. Given my choice of army, it was no surprise that I only won one game, lost two and drew four.
I started with a close game against Lindon's Neo-Babylonians. My artillery lost straight away to the first single bow to take it on and the Heavy Chariots ploughed through my spear, leaving me 2-3 down in no time. I managed to back his general into a no retreat position against a spear for a sudden death decider...I lost.
Next, Arnaud's Classical Indians. My artillery had no luck against elephants and the rest of my army busily fell on swords for a 5-0 drubbing.
Against John Saunders' Abbasids I had some luck and the PIPs to exploit a littoral landing for my only victory.
Against Phil Steele's Nikephorian Byzantines, things were going well, but time got the better of us.
In the remaining games I played 2 Zanj armies and later pre-Islamic arabs. Blades on Spears just didn't yield quick enough deaths on either side. Aggressive, entertaining games. I even destroyed four elements once, but two were hordes.
My take aways... 1. For tournament wins under time pressure quick kills and unit manoeuvrability are always going to be better than resilience. This is pushing a greater element of luck into the results under a combination of v3 and short games. 2. Artillery in 3 may be more solid in combat, but with the range changes for bow and fast foot, they are not the ranged force they once were.
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Post by paulisper on Nov 1, 2019 17:47:23 GMT
I feel, with players generally on the UK DBA circuit becoming more skilled and thoughtful, we’re better off playing fewer, but longer, games. Otherwise, I agree that you need to take QK armies or ones with low factors, such as LH, Ps and Ax, in order to get results and then it does become heavily weighted towards dice luck. The Bakewell event recently proved to me that taking Pk heavy armies as a matched pair is not the way to get results when the clock is not on your side. I would advocate at least 50 minutes a game nowadays.
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Post by martin on Nov 2, 2019 11:50:06 GMT
Any updates on which armies were used......MM has mentioned-
Neo-Babylonians. Cypriot or Pheonicians. d list. Classical Indian. Abbassid Arabs. Nikephorean Byzantines. Indian Arabs. x2 Zanj. x2 Aztecs. ...... So five missing. Also what was used for semi’s and final?
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Post by diades on Nov 2, 2019 18:04:39 GMT
Any updates on which armies were used......MM has mentioned- Neo-Babylonians. Cypriot or Pheonicians. d list. Classical Indian. Abbassid Arabs. Nikephorean Byzantines. Indian Arabs. x2 Zanj. x2 Aztecs. ...... So five missing. Also what was used for semi’s and final? I know Patrick used the Serbs from Book 3.
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Post by pawsbill on Nov 2, 2019 20:56:28 GMT
Full results and armies as follows
Champion, William MacGillivray - II/23b LPIA (city), (Knockout stage IV/19a Toltec-Chichimec) Runner-up, Lindon Paxton - I/44a Neo-Babylonian, (Knockout stage IV/53 Zapotec) 3rd, Richard Pulley - IV/68e Medieval Spanish, (Knockout stage IV/63 Aztec) 4th, Peter Ellis - IV/17 Later Crusader, (Knockout stage IV/19b Chinantec) 5th, Colin O'Shea - III/50 Zanj Revolt 6th, Mark Skelton - III/50 Zanj Revolt 7th, Matthew Bennett - III/66 Fatamid Egyptian 8th, Arnaud Marmier - II/3b Classical Indian 9th, Patrick Myers - III/26 Serbian 10th, Phil Barrington - III/77 Papal Italian 11th, Martin Myers - I/35d Cypriot & Phoenecian 12th, Phil Steele - III/65 Nikephorian Byzantine 13th, Stephen Etheridge - IV/62a HTW English 14th, John Saunders - III/37a Abbasid Arab
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