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Post by vtsaogames on Aug 16, 2019 13:07:30 GMT
Solid bows add +1 if flank supported by solid blades. On page 11 of my copy, the original hardcover 3.0 book, solid bows already receive flank support by solid blades. Check it over carefully - it applies to solid 4Bw. 8Bw would become a CF of 5 if this applied to them as well - equal to the Legion! OK, I wasn't considering 8Bw since I don't have any. But I don't see how 8Bw gets to CF 5. They start at CF2, then get +1 fighting vs. foot in the open. Add in +1 for blade support and that is CF4. Is there something else that I'm missing? |
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Post by stevie on Aug 16, 2019 13:51:02 GMT
Check it over carefully - it applies to solid 4Bw. 8Bw would become a CF of 5 if this applied to them as well - equal to the Legion! OK, I wasn't considering 8Bw since I don't have any. But I don't see how 8Bw gets to CF 5. They start at CF2, then get +1 fighting vs. foot in the open. Add in +1 for blade support and that is CF4. Is there something else that I'm missing? Yes...you are missing the +1 for being a double-based element (see page 11 paragraph 1 of the basic rules). So under the current basic rules:- CF 2, +1 for being double-based, +1 for side-support = CF 4 (and Persians have no Blades, so no side-support). And the proposed historical rules:- CF 2, +1 for being double-based, +1 for fighting Hvy Foot = CF 4 (if they also got +1 for side-support they’d be CF 5). So only solid 4Bows get side-support, not 8Bows. To quote from page 7 of the “Lessons from History”:- “And the reason why 8Bw loses side-support is because they already have close fighters in their front rank, plus giving
them a combat factor of 2, with +1 for being doubled-based, +1 for fighting heavy foot, and +1 for having side-support,
would give a total CF of 5 (the same as Blades), which is not borne-out by the historical records.”Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
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Post by vtsaogames on Aug 16, 2019 14:14:06 GMT
Ah, the +1 for fighting heavy foot is from "Lessons of History", not the standard rules. That's where I got confused.
I was counting the double-based modifier but not the one from the LoH. Of course, haven't read the LoH. That'll teach me.
Edit: let me amend that: read them quickly a while back and already forgot I did. Nurse, bring me my meds.
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