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Post by gregorius on Dec 13, 2023 22:41:49 GMT
So the 1x3Bw element for the Early Muslim North Africa and Sicily is completed. Next up are the figures for the 1x5Hd for the Khwarizmian. They have been cleaned up and mounted on painting nails. Tomorrow I hope to prime them. Cheers, Yesterday I completed the 5Hd for the Khwarizmians. Next up are the figures for the Mtd-Inf (3Bw). I'll try and clean them up today, glue them to the painting nails and apply primer. Cheers, As I haven't been able to transfer my recent posts on my Odds and Sods project I've decided to go with the other option of copying and pasting them to a new thread. I've not copied Paddy's comment or my response to the new thread. Cheers,
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Post by timurilank on Dec 14, 2023 8:24:58 GMT
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Post by paddy649 on Dec 18, 2023 11:16:30 GMT
Well I promised to stick to odds and sods this month so I’ve just finished 4 Kyrenean Greek battle taxis. Next up some Phoenicians.
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Post by carll on Dec 18, 2023 21:10:17 GMT
Sounds fun paddy649. Is it 'taxi' as in unit of phalanx or 'taxi' (as per modern parlance) and battle carts or chariots for your Kyrenean commanders and heroes? CarlL the ignorant.
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Post by carll on Dec 18, 2023 21:27:42 GMT
Well today I got my glue out after completing the painting of my eight 25mm classical Indian heavy chariot (Hch) 'car bodies' (mind I forgot to do four of the yokes which I had kept separate to paint and assemble when painted! I didn't realise till I got the glue out.. more later) and eight sets of four horses to pull them and eight sets of crew (should historically be four crew but I have never managed to get four 25mm crew into the space so its three 25mm crew per chariot including driver).
I have decided to glue (with PVA builders glue) the horses in place on their 6x8cm mdf bases today, to let dry overnight, so I can do terrain of bases next and while they are drying (overnight probably) I will stick the crew in the chariot body ('car') and then after they dry, stick chariot 'car' to the horses pulling them. My four Irregular Miniatures Hch come with a yoke that covers the two middle horses and I glued that in place on shaft of the 'car' at start of process before painting. My four Newline Miniatures Hch come with longer yoke that covers shoulders of all four chariot horses. I decided I would paint these separately, then glue yoke in place on horses shoulders, then glue chariot shaft to its yoke!
I still need to add reins between horses and driver mind! Going to use the wire used by craft jewellery makers, if I can get it through the 'eyes' on the Irregular Miniatures yoke! CarlL
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Post by paddy649 on Dec 18, 2023 22:04:24 GMT
Sounds fun paddy649. Is it 'taxi' as in unit of phalanx or 'taxi' (as per modern parlance) and battle carts or chariots for your Kyrenean commanders and heroes? CarlL the ignorant. Heavy chariots full of Hoplites that can dismount as Spears. They are really rather nice!
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Post by gregorius on Dec 19, 2023 0:11:45 GMT
Sounds fun paddy649. Is it 'taxi' as in unit of phalanx or 'taxi' (as per modern parlance) and battle carts or chariots for your Kyrenean commanders and heroes? CarlL the ignorant. Heavy chariots full of Hoplites that can dismount as Spears. They are really rather nice! Paddy, what did you use for the battle taxis? Cheers,
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Post by paddy649 on Dec 19, 2023 8:05:25 GMT
Carthaginian HCh but I swapped out the crew for Hoplites.
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Post by martin on Dec 19, 2023 8:35:15 GMT
Sounds fun paddy649. Is it 'taxi' as in unit of phalanx or 'taxi' (as per modern parlance) and battle carts or chariots for your Kyrenean commanders and heroes? CarlL the ignorant. Heavy chariots full of Hoplites that can dismount as Spears. They are really rather nice! Always feel the list writers missed a trick with the Kyreneans - if ever there was a unit which would’ve been ideally classified as Mtd. Infantry, these were it. Mtd.Sp would make far more sense than HCh…these guys were definitely NOT in the category of ‘hard charging heavy chariots’, more like horse-drawn hoplite delivery wagons 😳
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Post by paddy649 on Dec 19, 2023 11:43:28 GMT
Heavy chariots full of Hoplites that can dismount as Spears. They are really rather nice! Always feel the list writers missed a trick with the Kyreneans - if ever there was a unit which would’ve been ideally classified as Mtd. Infantry, these were it. Mtd.Sp would make far more sense than HCh…these guys were definitely NOT in the category of ‘hard charging heavy chariots’, more like horse-drawn hoplite delivery wagons 😳 To be honest Martin - I don’t really know the history of how they operated but I suspect you are right. With HCh//Sp they make a tidy little army especially against historical opponents.
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Post by martin on Dec 19, 2023 12:59:48 GMT
Always feel the list writers missed a trick with the Kyreneans - if ever there was a unit which would’ve been ideally classified as Mtd. Infantry, these were it. Mtd.Sp would make far more sense than HCh…these guys were definitely NOT in the category of ‘hard charging heavy chariots’, more like horse-drawn hoplite delivery wagons 😳 To be honest Martin - I don’t really know the history of how they operated but I suspect you are right. With HCh//Sp they make a tidy little army especially against historical opponents. Story goes that the hoplites were transported to battle in carts, to avoid heat exhaustion, a distinct likelihood if you wear hoplite panoply in North Africa 😵. How they ended up as versatile HCh//Sp I can only guess. (Bit of a Pz1 = Tiger II situation, by analogy)…Maybe no-one reviewed the list when v2.2 morphed into v3, which is a surprise, considering all the other revision that went on. Ho hum. Def a good army choice for tournaments, though 👍🏼👍🏼.
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Post by gregorius on Dec 19, 2023 21:55:34 GMT
Carthaginian HCh but I swapped out the crew for Hoplites. Thanks for that Paddy. Cheers,
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Post by gregorius on Dec 19, 2023 21:57:36 GMT
Heavy chariots full of Hoplites that can dismount as Spears. They are really rather nice! Always feel the list writers missed a trick with the Kyreneans - if ever there was a unit which would’ve been ideally classified as Mtd. Infantry, these were it. Mtd.Sp would make far more sense than HCh…these guys were definitely NOT in the category of ‘hard charging heavy chariots’, more like horse-drawn hoplite delivery wagons 😳 I would have to agree Martin. Cheers,
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Post by carll on Dec 23, 2023 0:46:04 GMT
My Classical Indian Heavy Chariots are finished (but not yet varnished, this will have to wait till I can matt spray them outdoors next summer). First up the four 25mm Irregular Miniatures Hch from forty years ago. They came with four crew but I thought four looked too packed in chariot car so I only inserted three. These are NOT the current models being sold by IM which are re-modelled 28mm. The one piece metal flags came with plug to insert into whole in the rear of the chariot car floor (or cab if you prefer) but instead I added a pouch (using piece of plastic tube cut from those that come on paintbrushes, then glued into corner of car and painted to match car walls). CarlL
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Post by carll on Dec 23, 2023 0:48:14 GMT
My other four Hch are 28mm Newline Mins Hch but not with the original crew, I did use the original driver, and although the Newline crew are lovely figures, (see next post), they are re-using infantry / general on foot figures so come on big bases whereas the original 25mm Irregular Mins (IM) crew had no bases and glued straight onto car floor. So having many spare unused IM crew I used these either side of the original Newline Mins driver. CarlL PS in both cases I added impression of reins with thin wire (of the sort used by craft jewellery makers) with some paint added to wire once in place.
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