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Post by Baldie on Feb 27, 2019 23:49:18 GMT
I have Xyston EAP and for the horde I have used a mix of Peltast and levies from the LAP range. I have no idea if they are way off the historical mark or not but put on a 40x40, in my opinion the right size for a horde, in a random configuration they look right to me.
I guess a horde can be peasant folks with straight from the fields farm tools, psiloi grouped up to hold a section of line or peasant farmers given decent armour and weapons by their lord and told to stand there looking impressive.
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Post by greedo on Feb 28, 2019 0:41:38 GMT
Wowzers! seven Persian armies, that's dedication Joe. Greedo, yes, try looking at the Essex DBA Persian armies. It lists the type of figures used so you could get an idea from that perhaps? Essex treats EAP Hordes as Skythian archers and javelins. Happily Xyston has these too, and Skythian Subject infantry. I call that solved. Spartan Heolets might be Greek Ps figs then...
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Post by primuspilus on Feb 28, 2019 1:56:28 GMT
Wowzers! seven Persian armies, that's dedication Joe. Greedo, yes, try looking at the Essex DBA Persian armies. It lists the type of figures used so you could get an idea from that perhaps? My hope is that everyone will see the fruits of this project within a year. Joe Collins OK, so when do we see Giant DBA Plataea, Joe? đ
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Post by wyvern on Feb 28, 2019 4:29:43 GMT
Wowzers! seven Persian armies, that's dedication Joe. Greedo, yes, try looking at the Essex DBA Persian armies. It lists the type of figures used so you could get an idea from that perhaps? My hope is that everyone will see the fruits of this project within a year. Joe Collins Hope so, will be interested to see that.
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Post by wyvern on Feb 28, 2019 4:35:18 GMT
Wowzers! seven Persian armies, that's dedication Joe. Greedo, yes, try looking at the Essex DBA Persian armies. It lists the type of figures used so you could get an idea from that perhaps? Essex treats EAP Hordes as Skythian archers and javelins. Happily Xyston has these too, and Skythian Subject infantry. I call that solved. Spartan Heolets might be Greek Ps figs then... Yes, I would take those then. I would also take Ps for hordes personally. It probably falls into that historical grey area where there might not be much information on the subject.
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Post by greedo on Feb 28, 2019 6:52:38 GMT
Ok random Hoplite question, regarding their crests: Do we know what kinds of colors were used for Hoplite crests? The answer is almost certainly "saw it on a vase once, so we get to make it up", but what would people deem appropriate? My old 1/72 Italeri Hoplites from 20 years ago look like the flying circus with their crests, so want to do my 15mm to look more Bdass.
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Post by primuspilus on Feb 28, 2019 8:02:36 GMT
I made mine white, red, blue, and black. Sometimes I made them stripy, for fun. Greek vases depict hoplites in bright colours, it would seem. I love the flying circus look! Go for it, they look brilliant! Man I'd be proud to lead that army of yours!
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Post by jim1973 on Feb 28, 2019 11:35:28 GMT
Awesome Greedo! Nobody even knows how common crests were, let alone colours. Don't get too worried about textile history and what dyes were available when and how. You have 40 hoplites representing 1000-10000. I think you're allowed some poetic licence. Surely somebody tried green?
Cheers
Jim
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Post by martin on Feb 28, 2019 11:44:04 GMT
My Xyston Spartan 7Hd are mixed figures from the psiloi packs. Shieldless, unarmoured rock and javelin throwing helots,. Yes. Essex might use Skythians as EAP Hd, but they're notorious for using incorrect figures in their army packs (even when they could easily supply the correct ones.). Any poorly armed, badly equipped asiatic peasant types would fit the bill, including those carrying assorted poor quality whicker/leather shields. A mixture looks best (my EAP have Donnington. Essex and Chariot figures).
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Post by wyvern on Feb 28, 2019 15:23:49 GMT
Ok random Hoplite question, regarding their crests: Do we know what kinds of colors were used for Hoplite crests? The answer is almost certainly "saw it on a vase once, so we get to make it up", but what would people deem appropriate? My old 1/72 Italeri Hoplites from 20 years ago look like the flying circus with their crests, so want to do my 15mm to look more Bdass.
Nice figures! I agree with Jim, from what I understand nobody knows for sure. My book (osprey Greek and Persian wars) shows Hoplites with black, white red and blue crests. I think it's up to you what you paint them as, just choose a painting scheme you like, although I believe the Spartans wore alot of red and carried bronze shieldsđ
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Post by greedo on Feb 28, 2019 15:52:29 GMT
Nice figures! I agree with Jim, from what I understand nobody knows for sure. My book (osprey Greek and Persian wars) shows Hoplites with black, white red and blue crests. I think it's up to you what you paint them as, just choose a painting scheme you like, although I believe the Spartans wore a lot of red and carried bronze shieldsđ Thanks lads Those old Italeri figs were great. Itâs how I got into DBA 2.0 from my Warhammer Fantasy days, via Chipcoâs Fantasy Rules! For $12 you got an entire Hoplite army (kind of. Youâll see some âfastâ Spears in there with only 3 figs). The Persian box was just as good. This time round, the colors will be a little less random... I seem to remember a post somewhere about how to paint Gauls so that they are colorful without being assaulting on the eyes!
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Post by wyvern on Feb 28, 2019 19:37:32 GMT
Yes, its a bit of a science getting the colours to work together. My Dad is a retired art teacher and he told me about the "colour wheel" which helps you choose complimentary colours that please the eye. If you are interested here is a link to a colour guide which is part of a good miniature painting tutorial. www.how-to-paint-miniatures.com/miniature-painting-color-scheme.htmlCheers, Paul.
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