aldavion
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Looking forward to the Welsh Open.
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Post by aldavion on Jan 12, 2019 11:31:00 GMT
Figure Scale / Figures at All
Well! This has taken an interesting turn. Most folk seem okay with this as long as the base frontages remain consistent. I would prefer to see figures for visual appeal but this is an Open tournament. Myself I have several 'counter' armies that I downloaded from a paper armies web site and mounted on chunky bases to try out a few different armies. I guess the consensus is aim for standard 15mm bases but we'll try out other options this year and then folk can comment further once we've seen them, in the flesh, (or not), as it were.
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aldavion
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Looking forward to the Welsh Open.
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Post by aldavion on Jan 12, 2019 11:33:49 GMT
Dismounting Knights
In the past I have simply allowed this as part of the rules as written. But I have noticed that other tournaments require the player to state at the start of the tournament which option they will use for the duration. What are the thoughts of the rest of the community.
While I think about it I have never required players to submit their army list as they enter the tournament. Is this a standard practice elsewhere?
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Post by diades on Jan 12, 2019 13:35:20 GMT
Dismounting Knights In the past I have simply allowed this as part of the rules as written. But I have noticed that other tournaments require the player to state at the start of the tournament which option they will use for the duration. What are the thoughts of the rest of the community. While I think about it I have never required players to submit their army list as they enter the tournament. Is this a standard practice elsewhere? Alan, it is your tournament, as long as the rules are clear from the outset and consistent, it is your call. Personally, I would be happy to face 6mm or card or just bases if it means someone plays rather than not. That said it is the aesthetics I love, so I would prefer to play vs painted 15 mm if that is what I and the majority are using. As for dismounting, the rules permit it, they even permit littoral landings....madness, but that is the game we play...
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Post by martin on Jan 12, 2019 18:04:32 GMT
Personal view - Rules as written, as far as possible.
As Diades says....dismounting is part of the rules. The majority of tournaments in the UK DO permit dismounts. I’m happy to use or face dismounters. Adds to the variety.
6mm figs on 40mm wide...happy to play with/against.
Army lists. There’s no DBA tournament I can think of which requires army lists in advance. (Maybe a copy of list at check in would be an idea, to avoid players changing the list through the day, but still not bothered personally).
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Post by paulisper on Jan 12, 2019 19:11:07 GMT
Personal view - Rules as written, as far as possible. There’s no DBA tournament I can think of which requires army lists in advance. (Maybe a copy of list at check in would be an idea, to avoid players changing the list through the day, but still not bothered personally). You’re forgetting the Northern Cup... 🤪 P
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 12, 2019 21:11:14 GMT
You’re forgetting the Northern Cup... 🤪 P True, but it's usually players who submit lists to the organizer(s). With the Northern Cup, the organizers "submit" them to the players.
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aldavion
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Looking forward to the Welsh Open.
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Post by aldavion on Jan 12, 2019 22:30:17 GMT
An issue may have arisen. For reasons that I won't go into, (local politics is involved) Penarth Wargamers have recently lost access to one of their main halls. The boards we normally use were there and are at present AWOL. We are looking at other options. But if it came to it would it be a problem for folk to bring their own boards? Of course, technically, only half of you would need to do so for the tournament to be feasible. Thoughts?
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Post by attilathenun on Jan 12, 2019 22:52:09 GMT
Hi Alan. I can bring two standard sized board and a third larger one. I'm sure I won't be the only one!
Fingers crossed they turn up...
Mark
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Post by martin on Jan 12, 2019 22:55:52 GMT
I can bring boards, too.
At a pinch, 2’ x 2’ can be marked on a table with masking tape, if not enough boards arrive.
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Post by mustrum on Jan 12, 2019 23:58:10 GMT
can bring a 2 x 2 grass mat if needed as well maybe a nice mat if i decide to fork out for one.
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Post by cleopatra2 on Jan 13, 2019 5:20:02 GMT
One solution for resolving a problem of multiple scales Is to have a matched pairs tournament. It’s true that players will need to have two armies to do this, but it’s rare there are not two armies in a personal collection. Also loaners can be provided. I have seen tournaments that had players bring 2 25 mm armies two 15 mm armies or to 6 mm armies. The games are always played in the same scale because the player who is turn it is provides them. DBA a already received criticism For being a fantasy game, with Burgundians fighting Babylonians or Chinese fighting American Indians. If you have figures of different sceales prepared for the snickers you Will hear. Encourage multiple scales With matched pairs tournament
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 13, 2019 11:30:43 GMT
Having thought about it, I have come to the view that the fact that this is an Open tournament, not just in terms of army choice, but also "open" to the paying public, means that uniformity of scale is more important than it would be if the competition were taking place behind closed doors or if it was a friendly game at my local club.
I have plenty of 15mm armies to choose from, including a couple that have yet to see action on the table-top, and I shall save my 6mms for another time.
Interesting seeing people's views though - and this needn't be seen as a precedent for future Welsh Opens.
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Post by pawsbill on Jan 13, 2019 13:02:09 GMT
Dismounting Knights In the past I have simply allowed this as part of the rules as written. But I have noticed that other tournaments require the player to state at the start of the tournament which option they will use for the duration. What are the thoughts of the rest of the community. While I think about it I have never required players to submit their army list as they enter the tournament. Is this a standard practice elsewhere? I would much prefer to play all rules as written. Otherwise you will be banning allies to prevent 5 Elephant armies, or littoral landings by allies or whatever.
Dismounting isn't the big issue it was under version 3. Most of the tournaments now banning it (or fixing the choice for the whole tournament) did so because one very good player won a couple of tournaments using a particular army where it was quite effective.
(p.s. I'll see if I can borrow 2 or 3 of the PAWS boards to bring)
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Post by diades on Jan 13, 2019 19:02:51 GMT
I have four standard boards and one 800x800. Given I no longer use the train, now that the venue has moved, I will pop them in the boot.
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Post by diades on Jan 13, 2019 19:04:19 GMT
Having thought about it, I have come to the view that the fact that this is an Open tournament, not just in terms of army choice, but also "open" to the paying public, means that uniformity of scale is more important than it would be if the competition were taking place behind closed doors or if it was a friendly game at my local club. I have plenty of 15mm armies to choose from, including a couple that have yet to see action on the table-top, and I shall save my 6mms for another time. Interesting seeing people's views though - and this needn't be seen as a precedent for future Welsh Opens. Previously loved playing with your 6mm armies at matched pairs tournament; happy to do so again anytime.
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