How to Play Medieval Spanish

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I will try to describe the deployment as best I can. I as the spanish usually ended up being the defender.

My deployment from left to right.

                  4Pk,4Pk
Ps,Ps,3Bd,4Pk,4Pk,3Bd,3Kn(Gen),3Kn,3Kn,LH,__


My Opponents counter deployment

__,LH,3Bd,4Bd(Gen),4Bd,4Bd,4Lb,4Lb,4Lb,__,__
          3Bd,4Bd

          3Kn,3Kn 

The Free company always can get to my flanks, kill my Psiloi and usually one of blades, while the Longbows kill my Knights. 

I dont know what im doing wrong, it seems he has a hard counter to my army

Nice one Stevie!

I think I will use your thinking for helping me helping my Albanians against the Serbian Empire.

Chris, 

I just wanted to answer your question about rushing Bows.

The best elements for rushing Bows in descending order of effectiveness are: Cavalry,Camelry,Fast Pike with Rear Support, 6 Blade, 3 Blade.

But there is an even more effective way of killing bows than rushing thwm with fast foot. Shoot them down with other bows or Artillery. I recently participated in a Crusades themed Tournament at Adepticon. In the crusades most armies have at least 3 elements of Bow (Well at least the European Armies do) I found the most effective way to deal with enemy Bow was to shoot at them with my Bow. I played the Cilician Armenians one of my favorite Armies. I found it best to combine fire all 3 of my bow into the enemy Bow. Bow have a 2 against foot, and if you use 2 of your bow elements to provide support to your third bow that is actually shooting then the enemy Bow takes a -2, which cancel its 2 against foot. So now that they are at a 0 its not hard to double them.

Cilician Armenian composition I used as a side note:

-1x (3Kn) General
-2x (3Kn) Nobles
-5x (Sp) Spearmen
-1x (3Ax) Javelinmen
-2x (3Bw) Archers
-1x (4Cb) Frankish Mercenary Crossbowmen

You can thank Timurilank and Haardrada for the medieval corrections, as my knowledge of this period is somewhat limited.
Mind you, it’s pretty obvious that IV/68f and IV/74 were not mutual enemies...their dates don’t match.
Still, let’s not use that as an excuse for defeat.

If you haven’t already seen them, here are some things that might help you:-
    fanaticus.boards.net/post/9701/ (my chart showing the chances of killing and being killed)
    fanaticus.boards.net/post/13098/ (Jim1973’s Hint Cards, with tactical advantages and vulnerabilities)
(You might also find some other useful stuff in the links at the bottom of this post)

As Haardrada said, Pk do not count rear support when shot at, it only applies when in close combat (see page 11 paragraph 1).
And no, you can’t back out of combat (see page 8 paragraph 9).
As for bows shooting bows, remember that they must shoot back at a target shooting at them, which often stops them from concentrating their fire (see page 10 paragraph 4). But this is not an issue with your Late Spanish, as they have no bows.

Using Ps as a skirmish screen in front of vulnerable troops is tricky and needs careful timing. Put them forward too soon, and they’ll get run over by mounted in good going...too late, and they are not protecting. But note that this is only in good going; in rough going Ps are not destroyed when doubled by mounted, they merely flee instead, and it’s the defender that chooses and places the terrain.

Mounted troops should avoid massed bows, or they will be shot to death by concentrated fire at long range. But one little trick you can try is to have your skirmishers in front of your Kn. Mounted can charge through a friendly skirmish line (see page 9 paragraph 4), and the bows can’t target the Kn, just the Ps, who only flee back through the Kn if doubled by the shooting bows.
But again, watch out for enemy mounted that can overrun your vulnerable Ps.

So how can we keep those pesky enemy mounted away from your skirmishing Ps?
Well one way is to use your Threat Zones as a weapon.
Pin the enemy, or at least make it difficult for your opponent to reach the Ps.
Your Kn are good for this...pin him with TZ’s so he can’t pick and choose who to charge.

So here is an ideal battleplan for you, with the best match-ups:-
    Your Kn pins the enemy Kn and keeps them busy...
    Your 3Bd charges the the enemy Lb...
    Your Pk takes on the enemy Bd...
    Your Ps protects your troops from shooting then falls back to form a reserve or threatens an enemy flank...
    And because your Pk shortens your battleline, keep your LH in reserve to counter any outflanking moves.

Now all you have to do is arrange things so that all this happens.



Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, such as the “Quick Reference Sheets” from the Society of Ancients,
and the new “Army List Corrections” file: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And this is the latest January 2018 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2018

Excellent!

The next step is to get the IV/68f Late Spanish to beat the IV/74 Free Company when they are the invaders, and don’t have control over the terrain...



Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, such as the “Quick Reference Sheets” from the Society of Ancients,
and the new “Army List Corrections” file: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And this is the latest January 2018 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2018