Post by greedo on Apr 23, 2018 2:36:10 GMT
Was looking at the Theban army list with their 8Sp, and then read about the battle of Leuctra where they defeated the Spartans:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuctra
So I started thinking, how to best represent both the elite forces placed on the end of the hoplite's battleline, but also how to do a refused flank in DBA.
For elite units, I was going to use my idea for skewed d12s to slightly give an edge to the elite Spartans and the Sacred Band.
There there is the deep flank phalanx, easily represented by the 8Sp.
The website describes the refused flank of the Thebans being screened by Ps (not shown in the map), so that makes sense.
But my main question is how do you do this battleline in DBA? Do you just assume you have to use more PIPs to move them, but what about this (I'm ignoring 3Cv + 2LH for now)?
4Ax8Sp
___8Sp2Ps___2Ps___2Ps
______4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp
or maybe:
4Ax8Sp2Ps___2Ps___2Ps
___8Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp
This would allow the battleline to advance with a single PIP until contact, and still screen the 4Sp with 2Ps, and allow the +1 8Sp + 1 General to smash into the Spartan's 4Sp + 1 General. The 8Sp loses the side Sp support, but this seems to jive with the battle..
Then there's the question of Spartan Hoplites vs Sacred Bank vs regular hoplites. I was going to use a skewed d12 to give then a slight edge over regulars, but perhaps with the deep and general would to be too much. Have to play test.
What does the community think?
Chris
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuctra
So I started thinking, how to best represent both the elite forces placed on the end of the hoplite's battleline, but also how to do a refused flank in DBA.
For elite units, I was going to use my idea for skewed d12s to slightly give an edge to the elite Spartans and the Sacred Band.
There there is the deep flank phalanx, easily represented by the 8Sp.
The website describes the refused flank of the Thebans being screened by Ps (not shown in the map), so that makes sense.
But my main question is how do you do this battleline in DBA? Do you just assume you have to use more PIPs to move them, but what about this (I'm ignoring 3Cv + 2LH for now)?
4Ax8Sp
___8Sp2Ps___2Ps___2Ps
______4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp
or maybe:
4Ax8Sp2Ps___2Ps___2Ps
___8Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp4Sp
This would allow the battleline to advance with a single PIP until contact, and still screen the 4Sp with 2Ps, and allow the +1 8Sp + 1 General to smash into the Spartan's 4Sp + 1 General. The 8Sp loses the side Sp support, but this seems to jive with the battle..
Then there's the question of Spartan Hoplites vs Sacred Bank vs regular hoplites. I was going to use a skewed d12 to give then a slight edge over regulars, but perhaps with the deep and general would to be too much. Have to play test.
What does the community think?
Chris
