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Post by Hannyabo on Mar 5, 2018 14:22:02 GMT
Greetings,
first of all things let me introduce myself. My name is Willi and I am from Germany. I have been interested in picking up DBA for about five years but never got around to it. During that time I have created many paper counter armies for DBA 2.2 for the juniorgeneral website.
With 3.0 being out for a while now I have finally started building some armies. So far i have finished an aitolian army and am working on early imperial romans and middle anglo saxons. After being done with those I hope i can find some players in my area. Since I could not get my hands on a copy of the 3.0 rulebook I am more or less forced to scour the internet for the lists I am into. This leads me to my question for you guys: I would like to build three mesomaerican armies as the area is dear to my heart but couldnt find any usable hints to at least find out which figures to order. Maybe someone could look up IV/53 Mixtec, IV/19ab Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec and IV/63 Aztec up for me? I am also confused about the composition of II/72b Alamanni. I have got the miniatures but have got no clue about where the Hd elements fit in.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Post by timurilank on Mar 5, 2018 15:16:00 GMT
Greetings, first of all things let me introduce myself. My name is Willi and I am from Germany. I have been interested in picking up DBA for about five years but never got around to it. During that time I have created many paper counter armies for DBA 2.2 for the juniorgeneral website. With 3.0 being out for a while now I have finally started building some armies. So far i have finished an aitolian army and am working on early imperial romans and middle anglo saxons. After being done with those I hope i can find some players in my area. Since I could not get my hands on a copy of the 3.0 rulebook I am more or less forced to scour the internet for the lists I am into. This leads me to my question for you guys: I would like to build three mesomaerican armies as the area is dear to my heart but couldnt find any usable hints to at least find out which figures to order. Maybe someone could look up IV/53 Mixtec, IV/19ab Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec and IV/63 Aztec up for me? I am also confused about the composition of II/72b Alamanni. I have got the miniatures but have got no clue about where the Hd elements fit in. Thanks a lot in advance! IV/19a Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec1 x general (4Bw/3Bd/4Bd), 2 x suit-wearers (3/4Bd), 3 x archers and shield bearers (4Bw), 4 x archers (3Bw), 1 x archer (3Bw) or Otomi mercenaries (3Wb), 1 x archers (Ps). IV/19b Chinantec 1 x general (4Bw), 1 x nobles (4Bw), 6 x commoners (3Pk), 4 x archers (Ps). IV/53 Mixtec1 x general (4Ax), 2 x nobles (3/4Ax or 4Bw), 4 x warriors (3Ax or 3Bw), 2 x temple soldiers (4Ax) or warriors (3Ax or 3Bw), 3 x peasant slingers (Ps). IV/63 Aztec1 x general (3Bd), 2 x military soldiers (3Bd), 6 x clan warriors (5Hd/3Ax), 1 x shock troops (3Wb), 2 x slingers or archers (Ps). Welcome to the Fanaticus Forum. You asked for the a,b sub-list of IV/19 so I added the Chinantec Army. For the clan warriors (5Hd/3Ax) you must field six horde or six auxilia, but not a mix of both.
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Post by timurilank on Mar 5, 2018 15:27:04 GMT
“I am also confused about the composition of II/72b Alamanni. I have got the miniatures but have got no clue about where the Hd elements fit in.”
The levies (7Hd) are an alternative for the three archers (3Bw). That entry gives you an option to select either three archers or three levies or a mix of the two.
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Post by Hannyabo on Mar 5, 2018 18:12:22 GMT
Thanks a lot for the quick and thorough reply. I have decided to build a Aztec/Tlaxcala matched pair. The Ax heavy Mixtecs appear a bit weak to me when I imagine them facing other book IV armies. About the Alamanni: That cleared it up. I think ill stick with the Bows instead of using the Hordes.
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Post by timurilank on Mar 5, 2018 19:20:36 GMT
Thanks a lot for the quick and thorough reply. I have decided to build a Aztec/Tlaxcala matched pair. The Ax heavy Mixtecs appear a bit weak to me when I imagine them facing other book IV armies. About the Alamanni: That cleared it up. I think ill stick with the Bows instead of using the Hordes. I can understand your preference for the bow, but at a later date you may wish to try the horde option. It is historically correct as it would represent a number of occasions when levies would be used; the fugitives fleeing the early Hunnic incursions and the mass migration into Gaul in 406AD. At least two maybe four hordes (7Hd) are planned for the Armorican/Breton in my upcoming project.
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Post by Hannyabo on Mar 6, 2018 9:41:37 GMT
The thing is that I already have Middle Anglo Saxons with two hordes and now will add the Aztecs with their fast hordes. I am just looking for different kinds of armies at the moment while sticking more or less to matched pairs. So far I am working on Athenian with Thessalian allies vs. Aitolian, Aztec vs. Tlaxcala. For my Early Imperial Romans I would like to get a knight army, eighter Early Armenian or Parthian. For my Alamanni im looking at eighter Patrician Roman or late West Roman. For the Middle Anglo Saxons a) list its gonna be Picts I think. I would also like to get biblical chariot armies and an elephant army in the future, but first I gotta finish painting up the batch i have already got.
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Post by goragrad on Mar 6, 2018 10:35:14 GMT
Have to say Hannyabo that if you can stick with it that looks like a good plan.
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Post by Hannyabo on Mar 6, 2018 13:17:08 GMT
I think I am going to order "Sue Laflin-Barker's Start Ancient Wargaming Using DBA 3.0" since the full rulebook is not availiable to me. So I´d like to ask if these lists changed from DBA 2.2?
II/28b) Early Armenian Hilly, agression 1 1x3 Kn (Gen), 1x4Kn, 4xLH, 4x3Ax, 2xPs,
II/37 Parthian Arable, agression 2 1x 4Kn (Gen), 1x4Kn, 2x4Kn or LH or Ps, 1x4 Kn or LH or 3Ax, 7xLH
And also about the home terrain and agression rating of the following armies, are these still correct?
II/5b) Athenian Littoral, agression 2
II/5e) Aitolian Hilly, agression 1
II/56 Early Imperial Roman Arable, agression 3
II/72b) Alamanni Woods, agression 3
II/24a) Middle Anglo Saxon Arable, agression 2
IV/63 Aztec Arable agression 3
IV/19a) Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec Hilly agression 2
I am quite sorry to bother everyone with requests concerning army lists, I simply cant see any other way of getting my hands on them right now besides asking.
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Post by menacussecundus on Mar 6, 2018 14:19:26 GMT
In 2.2, the Early Armenians (II/28b) had 4Kn General. The list is unchanged in v3 and the terrain and aggression also stay the same.
Parthian home terrain is Steppe until 126BC, after which it is Arable. In both cases the Aggression is 2. 1 x 4Kn (Gen), 1 x 4Kn, 1 x 4Kn or LH, 2 x 4Kn or LH or Ps, 1 x 4KN or LH or 4Ax, 4 x LH, 2 x LH or 3Ax or 3Bw.
Alamani's home terrain is Forest until 406Ad the Arable and Tarascan & Toltec-Chichimec has an Aggression of 1. Other terrains and aggressions are unchanged.
If you already have a device on which you can read it , then you might want to get the Kindle version of Sue's book. The full rulebook is rumoured to be being reprinted shortly.
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Post by timurilank on Mar 6, 2018 14:37:14 GMT
I think I am going to order "Sue Laflin-Barker's Start Ancient Wargaming Using DBA 3.0" since the full rulebook is not availiable to me. So I´d like to ask if these lists changed from DBA 2.2? II/28b) Early Armenian Hilly, agression 1 1x3 Kn (Gen), 1x4Kn, 4xLH, 4x3Ax, 2xPs, Remains unchanged except general should be 4Kn.II/37 Parthian Arable, agression 2 1x 4Kn (Gen), 1x4Kn, 2x4Kn or LH or Ps, 1x4 Kn or LH or 3Ax, 7xLH 'Steppe' until126 BC, then 'Arable'. Two LH can be swapped for mountaineers (3Ax) or militia (3Bw).And also about the home terrain and agression rating of the following armies, are these still correct? II/5b) Athenian Littoral, agression 2 Remains unchanged.II/5e) Aitolian Hilly, agression 1 Remains unchanged. II/56 Early Imperial Roman Arable, agression 3 Remains unchanged. II/72b) Alamanni Woods, agression 3 Forest until 406 AD, the Arable.II/24a) Middle Anglo Saxon Arable, agression 2 III/24a remains unchanged. IV/63 Aztec Arable agression 3 Remains unchanged. IV/19a) Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec Hilly agression 2 Aggression factor is downgraded to 1. I am quite sorry to bother everyone with requests concerning army lists, I simply cant see any other way of getting my hands on them right now besides asking.
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Post by beda on Mar 9, 2018 23:54:33 GMT
Greetings, first of all things let me introduce myself. My name is Willi and I am from Germany. I have been interested in picking up DBA for about five years but never got around to it. During that time I have created many paper counter armies for DBA 2.2 for the juniorgeneral website. With 3.0 being out for a while now I have finally started building some armies. So far i have finished an aitolian army and am working on early imperial romans and middle anglo saxons. After being done with those I hope i can find some players in my area. Since I could not get my hands on a copy of the 3.0 rulebook I am more or less forced to scour the internet for the lists I am into. This leads me to my question for you guys: I would like to build three mesomaerican armies as the area is dear to my heart but couldnt find any usable hints to at least find out which figures to order. Maybe someone could look up IV/53 Mixtec, IV/19ab Tarascan and Toltec-Chichimec and IV/63 Aztec up for me? I am also confused about the composition of II/72b Alamanni. I have got the miniatures but have got no clue about where the Hd elements fit in. Thanks a lot in advance! Thanks a lot for the paper figures! They are great for beginners.
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