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Post by Piyan Glupak on Jan 16, 2023 16:31:23 GMT
I received the army today. It was posted on 24th November 2022. It had a note apologising for the delay in sending the army, and explained why. The delay caused by Royal Mail, Bulgaria Post and the Bulgarian customs service was greater than any his end.
The figures look okay at first glance. I am very tempted to start painting them before spring, if I can set my paints up inside.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Nov 11, 2022 12:55:46 GMT
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Sadly Piyan Glupak , i find the photos on MY Miniature very small, so i can't see anything. If you manage to send some photos, i'll be happy to compare those figs with the others. And i could also probably contact Mike if you can't.
... Sorry Ainkatsiss, I took a couple of pictures, and then discovered that I can't find a lead I need to transfer pictures from my camera to my laptop. I will continue to look.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Nov 5, 2022 7:02:01 GMT
My 15mm I/14b army (Europe, 1400 to 701 BC) is mainly Falcon figures, which are nice, but almost unobtainable now. The I/14a and I/14c armies are MY Miniatures from their Northern Barbarian range. MY Miniatures look a little rough, but paint up fine, and tend to have a lot of character. I made an enquiry to MY Miniatures about another army recently. The reply was very polite, but I got the impression that now would not be the best time for him at the moment, so it might be better to wait a couple of weeks before you contact him. www.spanglefish.com/mickyarrowminiatures/index.asp?pageid=188024The I/14a army has only one enemy listed, itself. It is nearly all Archers and Psiloi, but the general's element is 3Bd. (The general was Warband in version 2.) I tried getting another of the same army to face them, but I found fighting identical armies a unsatisfying, whereas similar but slightly different armies usually give a good game. The I/14c army is a lot like a II/11 Gallic army, but with an older look, and less enemies. I/14b army goes well against Villanovan Italians (available from both Donnington Miniatures and MY Miniatures), and Trojan War Achaians. Every major version of DBA (DBA versions 1, 2 and 3) revises the troop categories of most of the infantry, although the same figures can be used.
Edit: Sorry, can't do photos today, none ready, and I won't be able to take any because I will be busy. Might try in the next few days, if I can.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Nov 1, 2022 16:36:52 GMT
I received a reply from Mick Yarrow today. (He has been a bit busy with real life, I understand.) The important bit is:-
"Firstly GG3, yes there are some with Dipylon or round shields. I can make up some packs with just those sort of shields if you would like
GG7 have the crescent shield. I can add a suitable mix of other shields as well
GG6 has small shields and many of the similar ranges do lightly clothed javelin men such as Cyprus, Minoans etc
IIf you tell me what you want you, I am sure I can tailor an army of figures to fit it
Hope this helps
Mick Y"
I decided to go with the 724 BC to 650 BC options, so my order was:-
"2 packs of GG 8 Cavalry advancing in Greek Helmets (or similar) 1 pack of *either* CYP 6 *or* MIN 14 *or* any other unshielded javelinmen (preferably with tunics but kilts would do) 5 packs of GG 3 Spearmen in Greek Helmets selected for a mixture of round and dipylon shields 2 packs of GG 4 Swordsmen in Greek Helmets selected for a mixture of round and dipylon shields"
His packs usually contain 4 mounted figures or 8 infantry.
This should give me 2 bases of cavalry, 4 of javelin psiloi, and 14 units of "Host" (which is roughly equivalent to Warband in DBA). I did think about classifying the late Geometric line infantry as the equivalent of Spear in DBA, but I didn't want this army to fight too similarly to Early Hoplite Greeks. It is the Later Villanovans that will be their main enemy, and the Later Villanovans have a mixture of what is Auxilia in DBA and "Host".
Might think about some very early Hoplite Greeks next year to play with these and the Thracians that I am painting at the moment.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 31, 2022 10:35:15 GMT
Triumph is now the prefered ruleset for shorter games . That's OK if you can get the rules from the USofA , without paying an arm and a leg for them . Although I understand that they now have hard (paper) copies available, I am sure that they still sell the PDF online (which is what I used when I was into Triumph!).
Edit: To address the original question:-
I have tried both DBM and DBMM, but found both a bit of a slog because I didn't have a player experienced in either to play against. I originally went into DBA version 1.1 because I was struggling with DBM, and wanted to gain experience of using similar, but simpler rules that I could learn without input from an experienced player. I found that I actually preferred DBA. Much later, after DBMM came out, I played a solo game of DBA, then another solo game of the 100 point version of DBMM using the same armies. Both played well and gave a similar result, but the DBA game was quicker and easier for me.
I also got into BBDBA, and enjoyed that. (It looks good with 6mm figure armies, by the way.)
When DBA version 3 came out, I preferred earlier versions and the DBA Plus variant to DBA 3. When Triumph! came out, I adopted that as my preferred rules until version 1.0 came out, and I felt that the finished version wasn't as good as the later pre-publication ones. There was a lot I liked about the approach (slightly bigger armies based upon a simple points system, more troop types to give the effect of a couple of grades for some troop types, for instance). I ended up starting to do my own rules in conjunction with my main opponent. We went for core rules with period specific supplements. Currently, there are supplements for Ancient and Medieval, Fantasy, Pike and Shot, American War of Independence, the Napoleonic Wars, American Civil Wars and Retro-Science Fiction (based upon the "Barsoom" series).
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 23, 2022 14:07:01 GMT
Thanks, sheffmark. I might use the royalistmymins@yahoo.co.uk instead of TMP.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 20, 2022 10:28:05 GMT
(I paint and base figures in an unheated outbuilding with no glass in the windows.) Painting flagellation Pleasant during nearly 3 seasons, though.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 20, 2022 4:32:34 GMT
I haven't had a reply from MY Miniatures yet. Sometimes firms that supply wargamers are not the main source of income for the proprietors. It is possible that he is busy with other business, on holiday or even ill. I don't want to bother him yet. I have a feeling any order I make would not get painted until spring. (I paint and base figures in an unheated outbuilding with no glass in the windows.) I will leave it another week, then start asking in The Miniatures Page if anyone knows whether or not he is alright. If I hear nothing then, I will email him again in case my original enquiry got stuck in a spam filter.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 13, 2022 13:42:18 GMT
For 40mm wide bases the official base depth for Lurkers is 30mm if using 15mm or 10mm figures. For 6mm figures on 40mm wide bases, the book says 20mm.
Please note that the book also says that these figures are recommended minima, because fantasy figure designers aren't always predictable.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 13, 2022 8:47:58 GMT
I got a bit impatient and sent the following email:-
Hello Mick,
I have a few questions about your 15mm Geometric and Dark Age Greece figures.
Firstly, the picture of code GG3 “Spearmen in Greek Helmets” on your website shows large round shields. Do you also include figures with other types of shields such as dipylon (oval with cut-outs on the side) or tower shields? If so, is it possible to buy with only certain types, such as large round and dipylon?
Secondly, what shields do GG 7 “Peltasts in Greek Helmets” have? Do they have the pelta, small round, large round or dipylon shields, or a mixture?
Lastly, I understand that GG 6 “Light Infantry in Boar Tooth Helmets” comes with small round shields. If I want javelin skirmishers without shield, are there any others that you do in different ranges that might be a reasonable match?
Thank you in anticipation.
Regards,
Richard Lee
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 10, 2022 4:40:06 GMT
Thanks for the replies. vodnik - Yes, I know that he has some smaller-sized, older ranges that he bought from other firms. The pictures of the Geometric and Dark-Age Greeks look as if they were originally created by MY Miniatures, like the Villanovan Italians. If I choose javelin psiloi figures from either another of his in-house ranges, or from Donnington Miniatures, I should probably be okay. elliesdad - I have a few armies that are mainly or entirely MY Miniatures, and am, on the whole, very pleased with them. For a Geometric and Dark Ages Greek army (even the late 'c' option), presence of dipylon shields are the distinctive feature for me. I will email him next weekend (if I don't get the questions answered before then), and probably order after that. I could find substitutes for the cavalry and psiloi if the MY figures don't work for me, but the bulk of the infantry is crucial. It's a pity in some ways that I don't still live in the UK, because I used to see him at wargames shows quite frequently.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 9, 2022 8:22:18 GMT
Thanks for your reply Martin, and for your PM. If I don't find out before then, then I might email Mick Yarrow next week.
Richard Lee
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Oct 9, 2022 6:31:41 GMT
Has anyone got experience of (or examined closely) the Mick Yarrow Miniatures Geometric and Dark Age Greeks? I am looking for some more playmates for my Villanovan Italians, so am considering either the I/30c (lots of either Spear or 4Ax) or the I/30b (lots of 3Ax) armies. His website does have pictures, but sometimes it is hard to be sure which figure the pictures represent:
I understand that most of the infantry would have a mix of dipylon (oval with a couple of cut-outs) and round shields, and would tend to have "Greek" helmets more than earlier types. Does anyone happen to know whether code GG3 "Spearmen in Greek Helmets" comes with a mixture of shields?
Presumably the GG6 "Light Infantry in Boar Tooth Helmets" and GG7 "Peltasts in Greek Helmets" come with mainly dipylon shields?
I imagine that for the non-shielded javelin and bow armed skirmishers, hoplite era psiloi could be used.
Also, if anyone knows of other Geometric and Dark Age Greek figure ranges in 15mm I would be interested to hear about them. I know that Chariot Miniatures offers DBA armies, but from the pictures they seem to lack figures with the dipylon shields.
Thank you in anticipation of the benefit of any experience, knowledge or opinion that you may have.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Mar 25, 2021 7:47:05 GMT
Sorry for the late reply. I haven't been visiting this forum much recently. The version of Solo DBA for 2.2 has been placed on this blog (with my permission): solowargamer.wordpress.com/category/solo-gaming/My thanks to the kind blog owner! If you want the PDF, please send me me a forum message with your email account, and I will send it to you.
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Mar 25, 2021 7:39:32 GMT
Hello from Xanthi, Greece. I am a dba/ adlg player and i" ll be very happy if we can manage a "battle" if you possibly come for summer vacation. I have many armies, including a palaeologan Byzantine for a historical confrontation! Sorry that I haven't replied sooner, as I haven't been visiting this forum as often as I used to. That sounds interesting... a;though I have a feeling that it might be difficult to arrange for this year.
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