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Post by goragrad on Mar 2, 2024 11:00:03 GMT
Bee busy with work projects and other distractions, but I was painting up some Essex 15mm pavisers and while looking for references came across LBM transfers for French HYW pavises (28mm). Looking for some additional inspiration I came across some references that show somewhat different arms for some of the cities and thought it might be of interest. www.heraldica.org/topics/france/frcitalp.htm (current blazons with some history) Orléans (Loiret): Gules three coeurs-de-lys argent, on a chief France modern. Hanging from the shield the Croix de Guerre 1939-45 with palm. Motto: "hoc vernant lilia corde" (the lilies bloom from this heart). The coeur-de-lis is today depicted as a flower, whose three petals point to dexter, sinister and base and without stem (a trefoil's petals point dexter, sinister and chief, and it has a stem). The petals are pointed. It seems that in previous centuries they looked like either hearts inflamed, or hearts with flowers issuant. Both the name of the charge and the motto allude to Orléans' special place in French history: it became part of the lands of the counts of Paris in the 9th century, before they became kings of France in 987 with Hugues Capet. It was therefore the second capital of France until the 13th century. Soissons (Aisne): Gules a fleur-de-lys argent. In 1819, on a complaint from Lille, the arms were changed to Azure a fleur-de-lys or. Tours (Indre-et-Loire): Sable three towers argent window and port sable and a Croix de Guerre 1939-45 proper in the center point, on a chief France.= Angers (Maine-et-Loire): Gules a key per pale argent, on a chief azure two fleurs-de-lys or. Seal of 1482. Sometimes the key is over all. In an armorial published some time between 1501 and 1600 (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8528582x.r=17256?rk=193134;0) - The field for Soissons is indeed gules - folio 109r.. The field for Tours is azure - folio 106r. (Orleans on same page). The chief for Angers has three fleur-de-lys - folio 105y. Note that in the folio the fleur-de-lys in the chiefs appear argent as well rather than or. I am looking at some image hosting sites and when I find one will see about posting some of the folios. Am trying (recapcha problem) to send the above to LBM is case they might care to modify their current designs (in the interest of historical accuracy). For what it is worth thought I'd post here as well.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 6, 2021 21:41:56 GMT
Was always interested in Asian military history and equipment. College library had a book on the tomb of the First Emperor which focused me on the Ch'in. Attempted a reconstruction of the infantry armor which lead me to conclude that the plates for the lamellar were either depicted larger than they actually were or were curved as using the plates in number and size based on the statues didn't work (was very interested in later years to see the stone lamellar armors with many more much smaller plates). I was correct though in my deduction at the time in that the armor was lammellar (based in part on having read H. Russell Robinson's Oriental Armor, pity the tomb was found after he had written the book it as he would have recognized that immediately) with laced plates rather than rivets as so many articles stated.
The impetus to actually get my Chinese armies on the table was finally picking up a painted DBM Han Army off Ebay. Turned out to be a fair bit of Ch'in in it, but gave me the incentive to paint up figures I had previously purchased and touch up and base some miscellaneous painted elements also picked up on Ebay.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 6, 2021 21:22:44 GMT
Not sure if it skews the total number of responses Psul, but at the bottom of the census you can click on the 'View Responses' button to get to the compilation.
One caveat, it would have been nice to see one's responses prior to finally submitting them.
Should have scrolled thru after filling out the form, but an intermediate step with just one's own armies would have helped in ensuring that none were missed (thinking back don't recall clicking off on the Palmyrans and don't want to double up if I did).
Still very much appreciate the effort that went into this and the chance to see what armies are out there.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 5, 2021 0:12:30 GMT
For some time I have been going back to my Ospreys as I work on the army covered. Usually re-reading the entire issue.
Fiction has been Way of Kings series by Sanderson and Forgotten Warrior series by Correia among others.
Not too much in the way of historical fiction or histories.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 5, 2021 0:08:25 GMT
Nice breakdown.
Particularly as I already have Han and Three Kingdoms and picked up figures for Northern and Southern not long ago.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 4, 2021 23:56:34 GMT
My lot -
Reference Description dba DBDBA BBDBA Book I Old/Middle Kingdom Eyptian(a) 1 Early Nubian 1 Midianite Arab(b) 1 1 Pre-Vedic Indian 1 Vedic Indian(a,b) 1 Scythian(a,b) 1 1
2 6
Book II Republican Indian 1 Mountain Indian 1 Classical Indian(a) 1 Athenian 1 Ch'in(d) 1 Gallic 1 Sarmatian 1 Early Armenian(b,c) 1 Parthian 1 Han(a,b) 1 British 1 Three Kingdoms 1 MIR 1 Sassanid(b,c) 1 Ostrogoth 1 Early Saxon 1 Gepid 1 Frankish 1 Palmyran 1 1 LIR West 1 LIR East 1 Pict 1 8 2 13
Book III Early Lombard 1 Italian Ostrogoth 1 Rshrui Armenian 1 Feudal Spanish 'b' 1 Feudal Spanish 'c' 1 Norman 1 Ottonian 1 2 1 4
Book IV Anglo-Norman 1 Feudal French 'a' 1 Early Crusader 1 Later Crusader 1 PRUSSIAN 1 Teutonic 1 Low Country 1 HYW English 1 Early Burgundian 1 Later Swiss (generic figures) 1 WOTR 1
2 4 5 14 7 28
Not quite all options for each army, although with the DBDBA and BBDBA I can probably build a all option DBA army for that list.
And particularly with the late Book III and Book IV DBDBA and BBDBA armies I could break them up to make a number of other lists and increase the nominal number of DBA armies.
Just as those BBDBA LIR armies could be split up and combined with Gothic, Frankish, or German elements to make Patricians and Early Byzantines.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 4, 2021 23:34:15 GMT
Completed, although i had to respond twice as I forgot the Teutonics the first go round.
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Post by goragrad on May 27, 2021 20:12:59 GMT
Been a while since my last update, in that time I have painted and glued to bases -
an element of PS using a pair of later Medieval crossbowmen of unknown manufacturer, two elmeti with Roundway miniatures (one RKV1 general, 4 RKV10 knights, and a RKV11 'light'), three elements of Pruss PS (finishing off the half element already done) using Gladiator FE28 archers, 4 elements of Pruss 3WB and one of WB with Gladiator a mix of Gladiator FE27 and 28 (giving me the ability to field an all option DDBA Pruss army), two elements of 3BD composed of Roundway RKS10 (I believe) half armored Swiss halberds, and another 3BD element using a pair of RKS11 Lucerne levy with hammers and a Roundway unarmored Swiss halberder (code not readable).
By the way - Does anyone have a copy of a Roundway catalog or figure list? With the demise of the website I can't ID some of the figures I hadn't already cataloged.
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Post by goragrad on May 27, 2021 19:47:03 GMT
Not sure if I bookmarked and I have to head out on a job, but some time ago there was a post on The Miniatures Page about Roman glass and some coins found in a Japanese castle.
Of course durable goods could pass though many hands before reaching their final destination.
However India was being visited regularly in Classical times and, while not a short jaunt, would just have been a continuation of a multiyear voyage.
Looking at Greer (who erred seriously in some areas), in his Armies and Enemies of Ancient China he notes that a Han expedition was tasked with invading the Roman Empire in 96 AD (believing Antioch was Rome's capitol) but was dissuaded by Parthian accounts of Rome's power.
He also notes that in 116 AD when he took Ctesiphon that Trajan was within one days march of Han border garrisons.
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Post by goragrad on May 27, 2021 19:03:11 GMT
Ah…my fault for not making myself completely clear. Page 11 of the HoTT 2.1 rules says:- “(1) The majority of the playing surface must be flat good going…” (i.e. more than half). Soooo, purely for the purposes of determining whether there is too much terrain or not:- (a) Divide the table into two equal halves. (b) Make the defender place all their terrain in one half. (c) If it won’t all fit, then there is too much terrain. (d) Discard terrain features until it all fits in one half of the table. (e) Only if it ALL fits can the defender pick it all up again and then place it as normal. In other words, if the terrain (including gentle good going hills) cannot all fit in one half of the table, then it must cover more than 50% of the table area, which is not allowed. Simple but effective. Will be keeping this in mind for future games.
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Post by goragrad on May 16, 2021 11:37:59 GMT
Pity...
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Post by goragrad on May 16, 2021 11:37:04 GMT
My mother, siblings and I visited in 1999. Did a little over a week staying at three of the 'tourist farms' - one in the west, middle and east of the country. Much too short...
As noted a beautiful country and my mother apparently learned her recipes well from her mother because the food was just like what I grew up eating.
I would like to go back again with my siblings children.
P.S. Amusingly, I read some time ago that as a 3rd generation 'expatriate' that if I could find gainful employment there I could get citizenship after a specific residence time. Been a while since I checked the economy as to whether that would be a good move. It would be nice though to have a base in Europe from which I could visit all of the historic sites...
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Post by goragrad on May 16, 2021 9:26:28 GMT
goragrad As its a "public" group on FB , you should still be able to view the pics . Incase you can't . Nice work!!! Thanks much!!! And when I clicked that link (several times) I goy yhis - DBA (De Bellis Antiquitatis) Private group · 2.4K members Along with the profile picture. Has someone changed the status?
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Post by goragrad on May 16, 2021 9:08:14 GMT
...goragrad is a slavic word too. The ending grad could be everywhere except Bohemia. Where is grad a hrad means casstle... Mountain Castle. Southeastern Slovenia, somewhere in the vicinity of Novo Mesto. Was told in Slovenia that Jankovič (maternal grandfather) is more Croatian or Serb, but just on the Slovene side of the border visited the village of Jankoviči... And a search on a genealogy site did find a couple of names in the Novo Mesto area as well. Name search for Pirč (paternal) had the same result. Pity so many records were lost in the 40s...
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Post by goragrad on May 16, 2021 8:45:06 GMT
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