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Allies
Jun 10, 2016 22:00:46 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 10, 2016 22:00:46 GMT
Some very interesting allies here Martin.
Locally I don't recall anyone conducting a landing with allies but agree there are some interesting opportunities. My own armies are restricted in these capabilities.
I think a Viking 3/40a ally would be useful in this respect as it has 3Bd. Once landed it can move quickly possibly causing issues for your opponent.
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Allies
Jun 10, 2016 6:00:46 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 10, 2016 6:00:46 GMT
I rather enjoy using a Numidian allied contingent with Polybian Romans. It contains 1 x General (Cv or LH); 1 x horsemen (LH) and 1x javelinmen (Ps). This ally adds a very different aspect to the Romans and of course would be well at home on the fields of Zama. It doesn't provide a powerful strike force but the LH can act independently which I think is useful.
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Allies
Jun 9, 2016 11:24:18 GMT
Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 11:24:18 GMT
In standard DBA what allies have you used and what were their strengths and weaknesses?
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Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 6:21:42 GMT
Interesting list of armies. Where are the elephants in the podium placings?
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Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 6:11:46 GMT
Nice pics of well presented models, Keith. Martin Thanks Martin.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 5:56:15 GMT
I think that a point system is actually unnecessary, since DBA 3 has improved or adjusted most elements that were weak or too strong in prior versions. I completely agree with their being no need in standard DBA. I am however a little concerned that in BBDBA that some armies may be more competitive than others where players play generic games and focus on using the same army repeatedly. I can see this happening locally as a group of players that are perhaps more competitive are starting to play. My own interests are more focussed on games between historical opponents and I see myself using different armies and mixes of troops. In this scenario I don't see a real need for a points systems at all. Interestingly over the last few days I have played both DBMM, using points, and BBDBA without points as a contrast of the system. My opponent really likes DBMM but regularly plays DBA. From my perspective BBDBA produced a more interesting visual game and was fast moving. If anyone is interested you can find the reports at my main blog. thewargamesroom.wordpress.com
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Post by twrnz on Jun 9, 2016 5:21:35 GMT
I haven't built Dark Age armies but I've had the fortune of playing a number using DBA 3.0.
In my view the rules have really improved the interactions of troops in this period. The article, as with my own on hoplite warfare also on my site, have been very popular, based on visitor numbers. It's pleasing to read that people have found some of the articles on the blog interesting.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 8, 2016 1:13:50 GMT
I have played a few games against Norse Irish using a range of armies including Viking IIRC. They are a surprisingly tough little army and not as challenged as I would have expected. Careful use of terrain is of course important. The Norse-Irish came mid-field in a recent small medieval theme.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 7, 2016 19:33:40 GMT
The BBDBA wording is not as clear as it could be.
The wording on littoral landings state "either side can reserve 2-3 elements... to be deployed at the start of its first bound..."
Big battle changes this by stating only that it is by a full command. It does not specifically state it is no longer deployed at the start of its first bound. It is a seperate sentence from deployment by commands.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 7, 2016 6:01:24 GMT
There has been some positive discussion locally on the book Joe. Plenty of downloads further indicate it is popular and a very useful resource.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 7, 2016 5:52:56 GMT
Thank you for the summary.
i have been pondering points values today. I have gone full circle on where values may sit for DBA.
Most would perhaps be 2 points. Elephants and War Wagons possibly more. Some, like hordes, could be less. However some armies with lots of horde are actually effective in DBA 3, at least against historical opponents. There is an argument for stands fighting in two ranks should be less.
Too many questions...
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Post by twrnz on Jun 7, 2016 0:07:03 GMT
DBMM has a points system but stands vary significantly, from as few as 2 pts to up to 20. It is further complicated by grading values. As way of an example a four deep pike block, in DBMM, has a similar points cost to say an elephant. In DBA the pike frontage is halved and in BBDBA this creates a significant problem. While I think it works ok in a standard DBA format it doesn't work as well in a BB format.
I have never played HoTT. Can someone explain the points system a little more? Perhaps it isn't as granular?
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Post by twrnz on Jun 6, 2016 23:47:15 GMT
Those look excellent. Do I spot Essex figures? Most of the figures in my post above are veteran Mike's Models. My opponent has a number of Peter Pig ECW which can be seen in some of the photos above. I have a mix of Essex and Mike's Models in my Royalist army. Other figures can comprise different manufacturers depending on the army. it is great to see some other people's figures here. The Landsnechts look very good.
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Post by twrnz on Jun 4, 2016 22:33:06 GMT
Its good to see the Renaissance section on the new site. I play Renaissance games frequently using DBR. The majority of my games are played in an evening time slot and often are based around 300 points which provides a balance between the time available and figures on the table. The armies are in general similar in size to BBDBA, around 36 elements. I've included a couple of photos of one of our more recent games here. The armies are 15mm Roundheads against Scots Covenantors. Above, veteran Roundheads engage in a firefight on the English left. Below, a more general view of the battle. For those interested feel free to visit my Renaissance blog. renaissancewargaming.wordpress.com
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Post by twrnz on Jun 4, 2016 21:37:08 GMT
Not so much a report, as a photo from one of our most recent War of the Roses games using 15mm figures and DBA 3.0. Hopefully the photo displays well enough here. I played three very enjoyable Wars of the Roses games during the evening, all with a very different feel. Some additional thoughts can be found here: ancientwargaming.wordpress.com/2016/06/04/beware-the-pretender/
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