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Post by jim1973 on Sept 9, 2017 5:20:40 GMT
I was watching the Roman v Ostrogoth battle on Youtube and I had a thought when the players were introducing their armies prior to the setup. I cannot find anywhere in the rulebook a statement that you have to show your intended army to your opponent prior to actually deploying the army. I was wondering what etiquette others use during set up.
Jim
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Post by twrnz on Sept 9, 2017 6:06:12 GMT
The identification of elements is common in competitions, often because some players have figures that do not well represent the required stands, or field armies that are obscure. Looking up such armies can slow the game especially in a competition where time is already limited.
In friendly games we don't tend to bother, unless a stand is not represented correctly, though if asked we always state what they are. For example last night my opponent, who is not familiar with my army, asked what a couple of stands represented. A immediately explained a stand was a 4Ax not a 4Sp.
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Post by martin on Sept 9, 2017 6:47:29 GMT
I was watching the Roman v Ostrogoth battle on Youtube and I had a thought when the players were introducing their armies prior to the setup. I cannot find anywhere in the rulebook a statement that you have to show your intended army to your opponent prior to actually deploying the army. I was wondering what etiquette others use during set up. Jim Among the people I game against in this neck of the woods the 'standard/accepted' etiquette is to show the opponent your army and say what you're using (so eg " it's a 3Kn general, 4 lots of 3Kn, 3 lots of Spear, 2 lots of 3Bw and a pair of psiloi" and a partidge in a pear treeeeee). M
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Post by felixs on Sept 9, 2017 9:14:31 GMT
and a partidge in a pear treeeeee). That would be the camp then, I suppose?
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Post by martin on Sept 9, 2017 11:20:47 GMT
That would be the camp then, I suppose? I guess so!!! Though in Hott it might be a lurker, perhaps......nasty temper when riled, those partridges
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 9, 2017 14:02:57 GMT
Killer partridges backed up by crazed robins...they would have to pursue unless the enemy had cat familiars.
I wasn't clear on my post. I'm interested in whether people declare the elements in their army before terrain set up or wait until deployment. I would hope that all honourable DBA players would clarify their elements when asked by their opponent. My thinking is that it adds some "fog of war" during terrain placement and deployment if you don't know the exact make up of your enemy.
Jim
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Post by timurilank on Sept 9, 2017 15:38:29 GMT
Killer partridges backed up by crazed robins...they would have to pursue unless the enemy had cat familiars. I wasn't clear on my post. I'm interested in whether people declare the elements in their army before terrain set up or wait until deployment. I would hope that all honourable DBA players would clarify their elements when asked by their opponent. My thinking is that it adds some "fog of war" during terrain placement and deployment if you don't know the exact make up of your enemy. Jim
We declare troop types after deployment. It is especially nice to know if the three figures based are auxiliaries, blade, pike, and unstrung long bow held differently, dismounted knights, reinforced denizens or disguised partridges.
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 10, 2017 1:57:05 GMT
How often do you find that you change the make up of your army from what you were intending, after the terrain has been placed? Ancient generals were sort of stuck with what was at hand but keeping it secret until deployment may help keep terrain placement reasonable. You may not want to take all those heavy infantry options into the forest...unless you're Varus!
Jim
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Post by twrnz on Sept 10, 2017 3:21:35 GMT
We always select armies before the terrain is selected and allow no change once the attacker and defenders die rolls are made. Generals often went on campaign with the troops available and didn't customise their army once a battlefield had been selected.
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