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Post by jim1973 on Oct 10, 2023 14:02:35 GMT
I'm still not sure I get why a defender would have to deploy first, why would an invader know where you stuff is? it's not really realistic is it. Well…it’s like why the defender gets to move first. Somebody has too! Having the defender placing terrain, deploying first, and moving first, while the invader picks base-edges, deploys second, and moves second, is a nice game balancer. It also seems to be supported by many (but not all) battle reports from the historical sources, where the defender has placed their army on the axis of advance of the invader and awaited battle. The armies may have faced each other for some time/days waiting for the right moment or omen to begin. We have written accounts of discussions regarding positions being changed based on the enemy's deployment such as at Plataea. David Lawrence's "Collision Course" rules give us deployment for a meeting engagement of two armies on the march. We don't have a good "ambush" set to cover Arsuf and others. But I agree that their is something clunky about the current system, particularly for high aggression armies that are dependent on terrain. Tweaking the system to have the invader be more involved with placing terrain and perhaps trading that off with less control of the camp edges may improve balance. Cheers Jim
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Post by skb777 on Oct 10, 2023 14:57:45 GMT
I'm still not sure I get why a defender would have to deploy first, why would an invader know where you stuff is? it's not really realistic is it. Well…it’s like why the defender gets to move first. Somebody has too! Having the defender placing terrain, deploying first, and moving first, while the invader picks base-edges, deploys second, and moves second, is a nice game balancer. Just roll a dice then without any factors do the low aggression armies aren't always the defender. I under stand the mechanic, but my point would be in a game with a 'first past the post' system and units that can quick kill allows the attacker to match up his in a favourable set up.
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Post by Baldie on Oct 10, 2023 19:15:30 GMT
No reason you can't do this in a friendly game.
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