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Post by paddy649 on Aug 27, 2023 19:26:14 GMT
So I’ve been thinking - If you could only have a single army list for all your future games of DBA what would you choose?
Clarification - choose a book and number and that’s what you have for ever! All sub-options are included but no allies.
So what do you choose? For me IV/13 Medieval Germans would probably be the one.
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Post by Baldie on Aug 27, 2023 19:34:44 GMT
Ancient British for sure. Yes you will lose many games but the few victories will be glorious.
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Post by hodsopa on Aug 27, 2023 21:12:17 GMT
IV/18 Lithuanian because (a) I haven't had much success with them yet, but believe they are capable of it if I work at it; (b) they have a great story as the last pagans of Europe, resisting the flower of the Teutonic knights.
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Post by vodnik on Aug 27, 2023 21:26:55 GMT
...the question is really idiotic but I would choose 3/1 Slavs...
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 28, 2023 0:39:42 GMT
I've been called an idiot many times, some of which I actually deserved! So I'll throw my 2c worth into the mix:
I/56a Kyrenean Greek - A chariot riding phalanx. What's not to love?
Cheers
Jim
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Post by macbeth on Aug 28, 2023 0:42:50 GMT
Of course I would choose III/62b Southern Sung Chinse until such time as the losses started to rack up at which point I would deny ever saying this and insist (all evidence to the contrary) that I chose III/76 Konstantinian Byzantine.
But as the player who has just added army No. 169 to his list of fully optioned Purple Compliant armies (what sort of idiot has 103 armies - THIS sort of idiot) I am the wrong person to ask. I'll be playing around with the spice of life (variety) for many years to coem.
Cheers
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 28, 2023 2:34:16 GMT
Of course I would choose III/62b Southern Sung Chinse until such time as the losses started to rack up at which point I would deny ever saying this and insist (all evidence to the contrary) that I chose III/76 Konstantinian Byzantine. But as the player who has just added army No. 169 to his list of fully optioned Purple Compliant armies (what sort of idiot has 103 armies - THIS sort of idiot) I am the wrong person to ask. I'll be playing around with the spice of life (variety) for many years to coem. Cheers How do we define fully optioned? The entire entry (e.g. I/56) or the entire sublist (e.g. I/56a)? If we're claiming sublists, can you have elements do double duty? I'm just asking so that I know what target to set myself in order to catch macbeth!Cheers Jim
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Post by macbeth on Aug 28, 2023 4:13:20 GMT
Of course I would choose III/62b Southern Sung Chinse until such time as the losses started to rack up at which point I would deny ever saying this and insist (all evidence to the contrary) that I chose III/76 Konstantinian Byzantine. But as the player who has just added army No. 169 to his list of fully optioned Purple Compliant armies (what sort of idiot has 103 armies - THIS sort of idiot) I am the wrong person to ask. I'll be playing around with the spice of life (variety) for many years to coem. Cheers How do we define fully optioned? The entire entry (e.g. I/56) or the entire sublist (e.g. I/56a)? If we're claiming sublists, can you have elements do double duty? I'm just asking so that I know what target to set myself in order to catch macbeth!Cheers Jim Jim, this is on a sublist by sublist basis - I have a fully optioned III/62a Northern Sung and the same for III/62b Southern Sung (that is two armies) - I do not consider double duty across two options to be full armies However the 169 of which I speak includes several duplicates for when I might need more than one of a given army for a campaign set (eg for the 1066 campaign I need two III/52 West Frankish and Norman) or whenever I find myself with better figures for an army that I raised way back in the day - in fact I have two each of Northern and Southern Sung. Fully optioned can still allow the exclusion of some elements. I draw the line at one option that just redefines the same element type - eg in New Kingdom Egyptian you can have Nubian Archers or Bedouin Slingers or Libyan Javelinmen - all Ps in the one element choice, and likewise in the Southern Sung there can be Provincial Infantry (3Ax) or Other Tribal Infantry (3Ax), no point in having both here. If you find the thread I create - 'My Little Sample' you will get the full list of the armies I have up to No. 150 including the changes required from DBA2 to DBA3 (spoiler alert less than 10 require additions or changes). When the next 6 are complete I will add another 25 to the list. Cheers
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Post by paddy649 on Aug 28, 2023 6:50:25 GMT
You are a better man than me Macbeth. I count sub-lists I can legally field as a completed army i.e. an army that has 12 elements of correct models, fully painted with correct heraldry and based - almost all of these have “all options on the sub-list but I can’t guarantee that I’m not missing the odd never selected 4Ax, Hd or Ps. However, I do allow reuse of elements between sub-lists where uniforms and figures allow. So I will use generic Hoplites across many armies, but Spartans and Thebans would require separate figures because of their unique shields. Similarly, my HYW English will use the same 4Bw across sub-lists but have separate Knight elements for Agincourt vs Crecy etc. BUT I don’t count multiple versions of the same army. So I have 2 Marian Roman armies so they can fight Civil Wars but I only count it once. I also have two Thessalian armies because I painted the first before Xyston were a thing but that only counts once. On this mark my tally is 179 which will shortly rise to 183 once my Gauls, Galatians and Ancient Brits are finished.
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Post by vodnik on Aug 28, 2023 7:21:18 GMT
...since my list of Slavs is outdated today, I have now decided on 4/63 Aztecs...
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Post by Brian Ború on Aug 28, 2023 8:36:57 GMT
II/39b Celtiberian army.
1xCv*, 1xLH, 6x3Bd, 4xPs
They strike fast as lightning.
They threaten any other Psiloi units, seize and defend any terrain. And they know how to exploit good opportunities (PIPs).
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Post by menacussecundus on Aug 28, 2023 8:55:58 GMT
II/39b Celtiberian army. 1xCv*, 1xLH, 6x3Bd, 4xPs They strike fast as lightning. My first DBA army - under 2.2, when the 3Bd were classed as 3Wb. The first time I used them, they lost three games in an evening (against Later Carthaginian, Polybian Roman and Ancient Spanish). They went on to lose eight of their first nine games; the one win being when I lent them to my opponent. Even under v3, their record hasn't been much better.
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Post by Haardrada on Aug 28, 2023 10:01:28 GMT
I'd settle for III/10 Hindu Indian all three sub lists offer strong armies with good options which are good in attack and defence.
....if allies had been allowed list (b) could be stronger but list (c) enters another level.😉
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Post by stevie on Aug 28, 2023 10:22:55 GMT
I’d have the I/47 Illyrians, the I/63 Paionians, or the II/13 Samnites. They won’t win any battles, but at least the games would be quick, and I could get to the pub sooner (hic! 🍺 ).
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Post by skb777 on Aug 28, 2023 10:39:00 GMT
Ancient British for sure. Yes you will lose many games but the few victories will be glorious. But those battle-taxi's are great fun. If only they could dismount as Wb
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