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Post by Haardrada on Oct 30, 2019 21:18:39 GMT
I think the best method is to anticipate what your opponent might have, and how you plan on countering them. So for example:- What if the enemy has an Elephant? (bring a Psiloi along, just in case). What if the enemy uses a City/Fort? (bring the Artillery along, just in case). What if the enemy has War Wagons? (again, bring Artillery, which also kills Elephants) What if the enemy has Knights? (bring the Light Horse along to make ‘Pursuit Traps’). What if you need to occupy bad going? (at last those useless Ax have a role to play!). Seems like the III/13b Later Avars have everything to suit your needs. Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
. Stevie's logic works very well here and I would seek to add to it...the (b) list is allowed II/69c (Sassanid) allies allowing various options but the most workable is 2x3Cav(including Gen) and 1xEl. which you can use to replace whatever 3 elements you want too from the Avar b list? The Elly could add a bit more clout to the army?
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 21:53:12 GMT
Ooh, hello! Haardrada has just entered the building in style!!! I am all ears to this. Hadn't thought of the ally - I rarely do. But on this occasion, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
THUMBS UP!!
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Post by martin on Oct 30, 2019 22:03:28 GMT
The stone thrower.....otherwise you’ll be gazing ar the walls of large forts or cities most (invading due Ag. 3) games. Seriously? How many defenders take BUA's? (Or do I misunderstand you?) If I had good garrison element(s) and all you had was Cv and Ax then I (and others I play against) would plant a big fort/city down...restricting your manoeuvre. Terrain to fit the situation 🙃
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 30, 2019 22:06:02 GMT
Ooh, hello! Haardrada has just entered the building in style!!! I am all ears to this. Hadn't thought of the ally - I rarely do. But on this occasion, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! THUMBS UP!! You could take the Sassanid allied 2xCav as 2 of the 5 Cav and swap one of the Ax for the El giving you 5x3Cav,2x2LH,2x3Ax,1x2Ps,1xEl and 1xArt... not a bad little line up. 😉
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 22:09:04 GMT
Ooh, hello! Haardrada has just entered the building in style!!! I am all ears to this. Hadn't thought of the ally - I rarely do. But on this occasion, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! THUMBS UP!! You could take the Sassanid allied 2xCav as 2 of the 5 Cav and swap one of the Ax for the El giving you 5x3Cav,2x2LH,2x3Ax,1x2Ps,1xEl and 1xArt... not a bad little line up. 😉 I'm not paying you enough!
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 30, 2019 22:17:51 GMT
You could take the Sassanid allied 2xCav as 2 of the 5 Cav and swap one of the Ax for the El giving you 5x3Cav,2x2LH,2x3Ax,1x2Ps,1xEl and 1xArt... not a bad little line up. 😉 I'm not paying you enough! You could even use the Elly on Martins Fort.... Shot in by Artillery. 😁
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 30, 2019 22:24:34 GMT
I've just realised I have or have plans to complete 4 of the Avar b list armies enemies... III/2,III/4b,III/17 & III/21a.
Oops.
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 22:48:51 GMT
I'm not paying you enough! You could even use the Elly on Martins Fort.... Shot in by Artillery. 😁 Yessss! Take that Martin!!! How do ya like them apples?!!!
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 22:49:14 GMT
I've just realised I have or have plans to complete 4 of the Avar b list armies enemies... III/2,III/4b,III/17 & III/21a. Oops. That's okay. We forgive you.
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Post by paddy649 on Oct 30, 2019 23:25:47 GMT
B with Art every time!
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Post by snowcat on Oct 31, 2019 1:12:30 GMT
It's unanimous. Great, because it means far fewer 15mm Avar cav to convert for 'the right look'.
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Post by martin on Oct 31, 2019 9:30:22 GMT
You could even use the Elly on Martins Fort.... Shot in by Artillery. 😁 Yessss! Take that Martin!!! How do ya like them apples?!!! It’s a plan..... but isn’t the El restricted to attacking only the gate of the fort/city (a vague recollection of the rules) and is also destroyed if beaten while doing so....? (See previous comment in parentheses...). Anywayzup....looks like a more balanced army, if a bit PIP heavy, with ally and El. Would be well worth running at a tournament.
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Post by menacussecundus on Oct 31, 2019 10:34:50 GMT
You could even use the Elly on Martins Fort.... Shot in by Artillery. 😁 Yessss! Take that Martin!!! How do ya like them apples?!!! Nice little army, as martin says, but if the defenders have been destroyed by Artillery shooting, there is no need for the Elly assault.
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Post by snowcat on Nov 6, 2019 8:07:04 GMT
An alternative option for the Sassanian ally is to take 1 x 4Kn, 1 x Cv, 1 x El. Or would you stick with the 2 x Cv, 1 x El?
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Post by stevie on Nov 6, 2019 8:48:23 GMT
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