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Post by greedo on Mar 10, 2019 7:50:05 GMT
Quick question: I know that an element is destroyed if it flees into a river (because you can technically cross a river), but what about a waterway?
I know that fleeing into the front or rear battlefield edge = destroyed, and fleeing into the side edge means the element rotates and flees toward the front/rear edge. If the waterway is on the side, and the element flees into it, does it rotate because it's a side edge, or is it destroyed because it's like a river?
Thinking more and more about littoral battlefields since my favorite armies have them 
Chris
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Post by stevie on Mar 10, 2019 8:44:24 GMT
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Post by greedo on Mar 10, 2019 16:43:34 GMT
Ah there it is. Thanks Stevie!
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Post by bob on Mar 10, 2019 20:04:33 GMT
A caveat to Stevie's observation. What if the losing element is already against the Waterway?
Recoil or pushback,
p.12 . An element already in such contact with any of these (terrain it cannot enter) cannot recoil and is destroyed instead.
Flee
p. 12: It is destroyed if it starts with an enemy front edge in contact with its flank or rear edges, or if after turning it cannot move at all, or if it enters any river.
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Post by greedo on Mar 10, 2019 20:44:50 GMT
A caveat to Stevie's observation. What if the losing element is already against the Waterway? Recoil or pushback, p.12 . An element already in such contact with any of these (terrain it cannot enter) cannot recoil and is destroyed instead. Flee p. 12: It is destroyed if it starts with an enemy front edge in contact with its flank or rear edges, or if after turning it cannot move at all, or if it enters any river. Good call Bob, I was just thinking that, if you can push your enemy up against the water then you can push them back into the sea! |
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Post by primuspilus on Mar 10, 2019 20:51:30 GMT
They look thirsty! Let's give them something to drink! Hoowaah!
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Post by nangwaya on Mar 10, 2019 21:41:00 GMT
That's what happened at the battle of Til-Tuba.
The Assyrians pushed the Elamites back into the Ulai river, and many of the horses and men drowned.
I wonder what other battles in history has had that happen to one side?
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Post by Cromwell on Mar 11, 2019 8:08:05 GMT
At the Battle of Towton during the War of the Roses the Lancastrians broke and fled to their rear which was blocked by a fast flowing and due to the snow a swollen Cock Beck which proved uncrossable and many Lancastrians were drowned wieghed down by armour etc. Others in desperation turned north to a known ford but this proved to be a bottle neck and the pursuing Yorkists butchered the Lancastrians. It was reported that the bodies of those killed at the ford were so numerous that they formed a bridge allowing some to cross stepping on their fallen comrades.
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Post by nangwaya on Mar 11, 2019 12:56:02 GMT
That story sure reminds me that war is not pretty. What a horrible experience that must have been.
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Post by greedo on Mar 11, 2019 13:29:30 GMT
That story sure reminds me that war is not pretty. What a horrible experience that must have been. The histories can be pretty brutal in their short description of the horrors. Been wargaming so long I sometimes forget how gaming can make things a bit more objective. Played Conflict of Heroes with my wife. I was the Germans in the intro scenario and she decimated me with her Russians. I said “honey you won!”, and she said “yeah I but I just killed all those people. Nobody really won there”. Even trying to persuade her that my team was nazis didn’t help! |
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