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Post by hadrian on Jan 3, 2019 12:28:12 GMT
First of 27 in a non-premier event nets the player 20 points in the league. First of 13 in a premier event nets that same player 25 points. It does seem this needs revision, given that tournament attendance distribution is changing. That's true, but I was answering the question about smaller, i.e. 12 or less players, Premier events.
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Post by pawsbill on Jan 4, 2019 19:10:16 GMT
First of 27 in a non-premier event nets the player 20 points in the league. First of 13 in a premier event nets that same player 25 points. It does seem this needs revision, given that tournament attendance distribution is changing. 27 players is a very high turnout. Maybe the question should not be whether we still have premier tournaments but whether it is time for a third band of high attendance tournaments (24+ say)?
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Post by Simon on Jan 5, 2019 9:15:18 GMT
First of 27 in a non-premier event nets the player 20 points in the league. First of 13 in a premier event nets that same player 25 points. It does seem this needs revision, given that tournament attendance distribution is changing. 27 players is a very high turnout. Maybe the question should not be whether we still have premier tournaments but whether it is time for a third band of high attendance tournaments (24+ say)? -- or first ask/remind ourselves what we want a Premier Tournament to be/do/contribute in the current UK DBA tournament context that other tournaments do not do or are not? Simon
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Post by scottrussell on Jan 5, 2019 9:49:20 GMT
My impression is that a lot of UK players attend most tournaments for the opportunity to meet friends from around the country and compete in an interesting format, rather than primarily to win. This is a considerable part of the appeal of the UK DBA tournament scene for me. In some cases the format exists primarily to produce interesting games, rather than to find out who is objectively the best player on the day. In other cases extremes of good or bad luck can override any other considerations. I would suggest that the role of the premier tournaments, however, is to produce, as much as is possible, a format which allows players to assess how good they actually are in comparison to their friends. So to go along with an army chosen to do well, rather that to cause amusement, or because it has just been finished, or whatever. Given the fact that the league does produce a list of players in ranking order at the end of the year, I think it is only right that the premier tournaments, so those without a quirky format, are given some precedence in deciding this. Scott
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Post by pawsbill on Jan 5, 2019 22:21:30 GMT
I've had a look at the numbers for tournaments over the last 3 years.
In 2016, no tournament had more than 16 players (and the Midland Open only 10).
In 2017, the Midland Open was the largest turnout with 24. Next came the Mercian DBA and Northern Cup with 20 players each followed by the Alton Matched Pairs and PAWS Autumn DBA with 18 each. No other tournaments exceeded 16 players.
In 2018, the Midland Open was again the largest turnout, this time with 28. Alton Matched Pairs was the second best turnout with 24 and the Bakewell Matched pairs was third with 20. 16 was the highest turnout anywhere else.
So I have decided to upgrade the Midland Open to Premier Tournament status again from this year.
I'm also going to suggest to Phil Steele that we score very large non-Premier tournaments the same as over-12 player Premier tournaments. But I'll have to discuss with him what level of turnout triggers this higher scoring (possibly 20+, over 20 or 24+ given the recent turnouts). We'll have to make this decision before the Bakewell Winter Warmer as that already looks like being around 20+ entries, but it won't affect the scoring for the two tournaments already held in the 2018/19 season (both had 14 entries).
Bill
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Post by martin on Mar 17, 2019 12:20:22 GMT
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Post by phippsy on Mar 17, 2019 16:36:57 GMT
Looks like the Premier League with that top 4. Interesting how close the following 8 players are in terms of the scores.
When I have been able to attend events, and only really the ones held at PAWS, and Alton last year, I have always enjoyed the Friendly competitiveness of the group that plays. I am always learning something, even in defeats.
Will be looking to try and spread the net of events I can attend, particularly in the winter months.
Peter
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Post by martin on Jun 3, 2019 8:50:19 GMT
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Post by martin on Jul 2, 2019 20:38:24 GMT
English DBA Open confirmed for 27th October, Bill? Guess at timings? (someone not on Fanaticus was just asking .....)
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Post by pawsbill on Jul 6, 2019 18:18:47 GMT
English DBA Open confirmed for 27th October, Bill? Guess at timings? (someone not on Fanaticus was just asking .....) Yes to Sunday 27th October. Timings to be confirmed but it will be all day (probably a 9:30 to 10:00 am book in).
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Post by martin on Jul 7, 2019 8:50:29 GMT
Thanks Bill. Have passed that on.
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Post by longtooth on Aug 1, 2019 7:39:41 GMT
For the uninitiated, where is the English DBA Open being held? My Google-fu tells me only that it is on 27 October.
Jesse
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Post by martin on Aug 1, 2019 7:52:03 GMT
For the uninitiated, where is the English DBA Open being held? My Google-fu tells me only that it is on 27 October. Jesse It’s planned to be at the PAWS club’s new venue, Fort Cumberland, in Portsmouth, Hants. The club website has a few clues - portsmouthwargames.wordpress.com/If you scroll down that page by around 5 or 6 posts, you’ll see one mentioning ‘PAWS Tournaments 2019’, which has a link. It usually starts around 10:00 a.m., with registration from 09:30.
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Post by longtooth on Aug 1, 2019 8:06:35 GMT
Thanks, Martin!
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Post by martin on Aug 1, 2019 12:56:52 GMT
See you there (assuming I get the day off.....😳).
How far do you have to travel for this one?
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