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Post by nangwaya on Sept 24, 2018 20:24:23 GMT
I just received my first order from Magister Militum in the post.
One thing that surprises me, is how light the package is compared to what I am used to for that amount of miniatures which I ordered.
For 15mm, I have only ever used miniatures from Essex.
When I opened up the box (good packing by the way), I noticed the miniatures are far more shiny and silvery looking compared to the miniatures I get from Essex.
Does anyone know what kind of metal(s) either company uses for their miniatures?
Thanks!
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Post by vodnik on Sept 25, 2018 7:17:52 GMT
...no idea about the metals. But the so called Magister Militum are mostly much smaller then minies from Essex. But chariots from MM fit on 4x4cm bases without problems...
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Post by davidjconstable on Sept 25, 2018 7:32:42 GMT
I do not know the metal, but agree with Vodnik over size, I only had one problem with figures not fitting on bases, and that was MY fault. They have a tendency to fit better in a box in column.
David Constable
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Post by nangwaya on Sept 25, 2018 12:39:38 GMT
Thanks guys.
I compared one of the figs. from MM to one from Essex, and they seem very close in size, so I hope this continues as I paint more armies up and keep mixing and matching figs.
I didn't purchase any chariots from MM, so I don't know first hand how they fit, but I agree with you about chariots from Essex... had a heck of a time trying to get the Hebrew chariot and horses to fit on a 40mm x 40mm base, so ended up snapping in half a 40mm x 20mm base and glued a 40mm x 10mm portion to a 40mm x 40mm base, so I could fit the chariot, etc.. nicely.
The 40mm x 50mm base for the chariot may not be tournament approved, but as long as I am just using these armies at home, it's not going to bother anyone.
I also notice that I often have a hard time getting Essex horses to fit on a 30mm base depth, especially if the horses' tails are sticking straight out horizontally... have delicately bent many a horse tail to get them to fit without having tails or noses protruding beyond the bases.
Going to enjoy going to the SELWG Open Day in October, as I noticed both Essex and Magister Militum will have booths there. This is going to save me a bundle on postage fees!
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Post by davidjconstable on Sept 25, 2018 16:07:22 GMT
The Essex are nice figures, easy to paint, but as you have found out the poses are the problem.
David Constable
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Post by martin on Sept 25, 2018 16:35:00 GMT
Going to enjoy going to the SELWG Open Day in October, as I noticed both Essex and Magister Militum will have booths there. This is going to save me a bundle on postage fees! Worth pre-ordering, if you know what you want, to avoid disappointment if they have nil stock on the day. Mag Mil have a special way of doing this on their website, and I think Essex take e.mail pre-orders. Enjoy the show😎 And yes, Essex chariots and 40 mm depth basing don't mix so good.
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Post by nangwaya on Sept 25, 2018 16:46:00 GMT
Thanks!
I will certainly look into pre-ordering!
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Post by paddy649 on Sept 25, 2018 16:59:41 GMT
All my Indian chariots fro MM fit easily into 40 x 40 bases....even the 4 horse ones.
I must say I do like MM. The figures are on the small size (true 15s), the figures are slighter than others (probably more accurate but delicate), there is a slight lack of variety in poses and some of the horses have longer necks than I would like.
BUT
They have a very comprehensive range, they are historically accurate (even if that makes cavalry xystons unmanageably long), they paint up well, they are a family run company with a good ethos and time to chat at shows, they are packaged to be DBA friendly and minimise waste (unlike OG and FIB), I’ve never not been able to pin a breakage and they have good customer service. As a result most of my Classical armies are MM.
Paddy
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Post by nangwaya on Sept 25, 2018 22:28:32 GMT
Thanks for the info. Paddy.
I have already started making my list... Nice to pick which figs. I want rather than just grabbing an army pack.
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Post by paddy649 on Sept 26, 2018 7:43:49 GMT
I think it may be a false economy. So often I miss a figure here or there and so need to do a re-order and then while I’m ordering I’ll slip in a few more elements to change this Army into that one......and then I’ve always hankered after that Army...... and then it’s only £10 more to get free postage and you know that makes sense.
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Post by davidjconstable on Sept 26, 2018 8:02:46 GMT
paddy649
You know the old saying about not being a true wargamer unless you have more unpainted figures than painted figures.
Besides unpainted figures are projects in progress, and by the time you paint them the price will have gone up, so you are saving money.
David Constable
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Post by paddy649 on Sept 26, 2018 11:30:48 GMT
“A Wargames who doesn’t own his own body weight in unpainted lead is a danger to himself and his friends!”
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Post by goragrad on Sept 28, 2018 10:35:18 GMT
As to metal, Essex are still a lead alloy.
Haven't gotten any new Chariot/MM, the older figures are lead as well.
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Post by paddy649 on Feb 1, 2020 7:53:01 GMT
Yes Chariot Miniatures used to me made with an alloy that looked greyish (I assume a high lead content) so they were easy to deflash and convert but susceptible to breakage when bent - especially the bottom of Indian bamboo bows! The last lot I got from Magister Militum looked far more silver (I assume a higher tin content) and were a harder metal that was more resistant to being cut, drilled or bent.
The metal Essex uses seems to be midway between the two but also Essex figures are more chunky so don’t bend as easily and don’t have as many weak points - except their javelinman running figure mid stride which connects the figure to the base by an ankle. Nice figure, anatomically correct but at least one always needs pinning on every base.
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