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Post by goragrad on Sept 28, 2018 10:32:24 GMT
Speaking of paradigm shifts paul, I just got some Black Hat/Gladiator Medievals and Egyptians that might well mix with those Museum Sumerians.
I will say that the Museum Welsh longbowmen from Silvereagle I got will be in a separate army. Have to get some Museum AX and CV to go with them.
As to the Sumerians, were it not for what looks to be a serious problem getting that HCH on a base without going to at least 50mm, I really like the looks of the figures. Proportions in the photo look better than the digital images on the website. Pity.
Of course very few chariots do well on a 40mm base depth either...
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Post by jeffreythancock on Sept 28, 2018 14:58:43 GMT
The new Museum Sumerians are beautiful, but they are more consistent with Blue Moon, Lancashire (new models), and Capitan/Warmodelling/Fantassin in terms of size (18-19mm or 1:100).
I wonder if they were computer modeled large to account for shrinking when printed 3D, molded, and cast in metal. Perhaps they did not shrink as much as expected?
I expect to see more computer modeled figures in the future printed in 3D, then molded for metal castings. The Sumerians may be a start in that direction for Museum?
Then it will be art and artisan (sculpter) vs. 3D model and modeler.
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Post by edonaldson on Sept 29, 2018 1:06:13 GMT
I don't think the scale creep genie can be put back in the bottle at this point. What I would like to see is some truth in advertising by figure makers. If they aren't 15mm say so. People will likely still buy them but those looking for something compatible with other ranges will know before they buy.
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Post by paulhannah on Sept 29, 2018 2:47:13 GMT
I don't think the scale creep genie can be put back in the bottle... Yeah, cuz this particular genie has gotten too flippin' big! It might help if a few us who have inadvertently bought such ridiculously over-sized figures took the time to them back. --Not with any expectation of a refund, but with a note explaining why we can't use them (don't fit on bases, incompatible with other ranges, etc.). Maybe one or two producers would take heed. But, of course, as many here know: I'm a dinosaur. I happily collect, paint, and game with my cherished Mikes Models. And select other ranges I enjoy.
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Post by goragrad on Sept 29, 2018 10:27:02 GMT
Another reason that I keep going back to Alternative Armies whenever they carry figures for an army that I am building. The old TTG figures may not be as animated, but it doesn't take much fiddling to ge even a 4KN base put together. Although even their chariots are a bit long for a 40mm base.
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Post by felixs on Sept 29, 2018 11:36:25 GMT
Museum Miniatures has a few such figures in the older lines too. Museum Miniatures have always been on the bigger side of 15mm, but some of their figures are gigantic. I even have succesfully mixed Museum hoplite figures (from an older line) with Xyston Kappadokians... The newer lines by Museum Miniatures (the Japanese come to mind) are all closer to 20mm than to 15mm.
It is highly problematic, but it is also a tendency with many makers of 15mm (or "15mm") figures. It seems that true 15mm is in the minority among newer lines.
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Post by Dave Beatty on Jan 2, 2019 0:26:28 GMT
I have 306 Museum Miniatures in my collection (but admittedly none from their new line) and I must agree with the above discussion - they are almost all 18mm and do NOT mix well with Essex, Xyston, Old Glory or even Minifigs. I generally put them in their own units although I do mix a few in to irregular type units. Their camp followers are excellent and work well in stand alone dioramas or in a camp. I have 20 stands of 3 on 20mmx40mm bases that I use for Irregular E LMI IPW with my Warrior Achaemenid Persian army and 2 stands of 7 Horde (HM05 which at 3GBP for 15 is a good deal and can pass for anything from DBA I/1 Early Sumerian to IV/77 Black Sheep Turcoman and even fit into a Mahdist army for TSATF).
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