Post by stevie on May 21, 2018 9:44:10 GMT
Page 7 paragraph 1 of the rules say:-
“If a BUA is chosen, it must be a City, Fort, Hamlet or Edifice and will belong to the defender.”
Now some players (me mostly), interpret this to mean that an invader cannot deploy directly in a Hamlet or Edifice, as they belong to the defender, so they must be captured by moving into them.
But apparently most other players interpret this sentence as having no significance or meaning and allow invaders to deploy directly into Hamlets and Edifices.
Be that as it may, perhaps we can use the first interpretation to House Rule “Concealed Ambushes” into DBA 3.0, along the following lines:-
Concealed Ambushes
Deployment:
The invader cannot deploy directly into a Hamlet or Edifice, as these belong to the defender.
(There may, or may not, be an ambush in there)
The Ambush:
After placing their camp, the defender writes on a piece of paper which of their elements they may want to conceal in there if they so wish. This piece of paper is folded over and handed to the invader.
(Elephants, War Wagons and Artillery cannot be used for an ambush...sound familiar?...nor may Scythed Chariots or Generals)
Defender Deployment:
Then the defender deploys all of their troops (except those reserved for Littoral Landing), including the ambush force.
But the ambush force is deployed as part of their main battleline, and not yet placed in the concealing terrain.
(This keeps the invader from simply counting elements to find out if there is an ambush)
Detection:
When the invader enters the Hamlet or Edifice, they open the piece of paper the defender handed them.
Or, if they gain a line-of-sight, however small, to the position of the ambush force that ‘appears’ to be
part of the defender’s battleline, the defender must move them to their true location in the Hamlet or Edifice.
(Keeping the ambush force completely behind other troops conceals their true location from the enemy)
Threat Zones:
The ambush force can ‘switch off’ their Threat Zone if they so wish to help keep the invader guessing.
(Making an elaborate display of measuring everything that passes by the Hamlet or Edifice makes a good bluff)
Limitations:
Not every battle in history had an ambush, and they were fairly rare.
By only limiting them to Hamlets and Edifices ensures they don’t occur too frequently...especially with randomly generated terrain.
(They also need to be in the right place as well as the invader coming from the right direction for them to be any good)
PIP Costs:
These are likely to be high, as the ambush force will be entirely within a BUA, and likely over 4 BW from their general.
It might be necessary to mark a number or letter on the underside of your element bases to make each identifiable.
Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, such as the “Quick Reference Sheets” from the Society of Ancients,
and the new “Army List Corrections” file: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And this is the latest January 2018 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2018
“If a BUA is chosen, it must be a City, Fort, Hamlet or Edifice and will belong to the defender.”
Now some players (me mostly), interpret this to mean that an invader cannot deploy directly in a Hamlet or Edifice, as they belong to the defender, so they must be captured by moving into them.
But apparently most other players interpret this sentence as having no significance or meaning and allow invaders to deploy directly into Hamlets and Edifices.
Be that as it may, perhaps we can use the first interpretation to House Rule “Concealed Ambushes” into DBA 3.0, along the following lines:-
Concealed Ambushes
Deployment:
The invader cannot deploy directly into a Hamlet or Edifice, as these belong to the defender.
(There may, or may not, be an ambush in there)
The Ambush:
After placing their camp, the defender writes on a piece of paper which of their elements they may want to conceal in there if they so wish. This piece of paper is folded over and handed to the invader.
(Elephants, War Wagons and Artillery cannot be used for an ambush...sound familiar?...nor may Scythed Chariots or Generals)
Defender Deployment:
Then the defender deploys all of their troops (except those reserved for Littoral Landing), including the ambush force.
But the ambush force is deployed as part of their main battleline, and not yet placed in the concealing terrain.
(This keeps the invader from simply counting elements to find out if there is an ambush)
Detection:
When the invader enters the Hamlet or Edifice, they open the piece of paper the defender handed them.
Or, if they gain a line-of-sight, however small, to the position of the ambush force that ‘appears’ to be
part of the defender’s battleline, the defender must move them to their true location in the Hamlet or Edifice.
(Keeping the ambush force completely behind other troops conceals their true location from the enemy)
Threat Zones:
The ambush force can ‘switch off’ their Threat Zone if they so wish to help keep the invader guessing.
(Making an elaborate display of measuring everything that passes by the Hamlet or Edifice makes a good bluff)
Limitations:
Not every battle in history had an ambush, and they were fairly rare.
By only limiting them to Hamlets and Edifices ensures they don’t occur too frequently...especially with randomly generated terrain.
(They also need to be in the right place as well as the invader coming from the right direction for them to be any good)
PIP Costs:
These are likely to be high, as the ambush force will be entirely within a BUA, and likely over 4 BW from their general.
It might be necessary to mark a number or letter on the underside of your element bases to make each identifiable.
Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, such as the “Quick Reference Sheets” from the Society of Ancients,
and the new “Army List Corrections” file: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And this is the latest January 2018 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2018