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Post by Haardrada on May 3, 2018 13:54:44 GMT
Hi I'm looking to do an Early Grenadine army and wonder how it performs (if someone already has the army?).
Are the Islamic Berber allies worth taking?
Any suggeations on figures,flags and colour schemes are most welcome.π
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Post by Tony Aguilar on May 3, 2018 16:02:40 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on May 3, 2018 21:02:36 GMT
Very nice Tony,I remember seeing them in the eye candy on the old Fanaticus site.π
It looks like I'll be opting for Essex figures but Im having to sift for choices....The army I want to do is mid-late 13th-early 14th century making the Andalusian figures too early and the Late Grenadine figures too late.I dropped the idea of Mercenary Spanish spearmen for Arab style(and Berber allied) spearmen as I was not sure what figures I could use(round or heater shields?kite style would be too early.).I also decided peter pig tauregs would probably look best too.
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Post by Simon on May 4, 2018 11:25:30 GMT
Have you checked out the Donnington New Era Armies of Muslim range? there are also Spanish figures for that period in their Feudal/Crusades range.
Simon
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Post by paulhannah on May 4, 2018 15:07:43 GMT
Any suggestions on figures,flags and colour schemes are most welcome.π Here are a couple views of 15mm Legio Heroica figures, as III/75 Islamic Berbers, painted by Eric Donaldson, Seattle.   Some of Eric's finest work, I think. -- Have fun "Haardrada", in you choosing and painting your new army. |
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Post by Haardrada on May 5, 2018 5:40:07 GMT
Thanks guys for your input...I often mix figures from various manufacturers if I find them of simular proportion and hight to vary poses from one element to another which has worked well in several armies that I have done.Erics work is inspiring.
I have both the source books and have looked on-line and found several illustrations of Grenadine soldiers.I've even put in a search for '15mm dba iv/38 Grenadine army' and found several finished armies as well as two player blogs with conpleted armies and background info....Sorry if I sound a bit fussy and nerdy but part of enjoyment of building a new army for me is research it before I commit to do it.
This army is not a sterio-type medieval army...with lots of LH backed by fast crossbows and supported by Sp with a low aggression that fights in hilly terrain.
Its what I regard as an anti-army which looks like it will perform well against mounted...LH,Cb(combat draw)and Cm all have QK ability vs Kn..but I'm still working out how it will deal with Bd armies(thats why I fancy the Berber allies to add more Sp and Kn or Cm) to use the Sp as bait and hit flanks with Cb and LH.
I love LH armies but found I had few armies relying on missile troops so thought I'd give this one a go.π
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Post by Haardrada on Jun 5, 2018 8:36:38 GMT
As I was wanting to do an early Nasarid army (pre 1300AD) I finally decided on the (mainly) essex figures for the army.This allowed me a mixed choice for most elements and allowed plenty of conversion opportunities.
General (Kn/Cav) AEA1 with MID113a followers.
Jinets (LH) mixed CRU18 and MID104.a
Horse Crossbow (LH) converted MOG6 and CRU17...I swapped the bow for a Crossbow to give a firing pose for a MOG6 figure and clipped the spear and shield arm from a CRU17 figure.
Mercenary/Town militia (Sp) mixed CRU7 and MID21.
Crossbowmen (4CB) My take on these are that they are mercenary types so they are mainly Mailed CRU42, but I mixed a CRU9 and MID106 to add variety in equipment.
StaffSlingers (Ps) I used Some Outpost Crusader Period Islamcs CI18 Dailami spearmen for these.They come with separate shields in the pack so I just clipped the spears from the figures and made the slings with wire and model putty...not bad and I varied the firing poses.π
Peasant Crossbow (3Cb or Ps) the need for 4 elements of each helped with the variation...using a mix of CRU9,CRU42,MID106 and MID121 I had more than enough choice of pose which I was more than happy with.
I chose to add IV75 Islamic Berber Allies to the army to add a little weight and as of the choice of this allied army the General could be Cav,LH or Sp. I still had a spare MID113a and used the remaining CRU17 figures for the Cav and LH element choices.
With Spearmen being the most numerous element in the army I knew I needed at least one element so used CRU58 for the Sp element and the Sp General element (converting one figure by replacing his Sp with a sword).
The Third element could be a variety of choices but I opted for the Spanish Mercenaries (Kn or 4Cb) MID80 and the remaining CRU42 figures and Peter Pigs beautiful Tauregs...a mix of packs 31 and 33.
On the whole I am pleased with the variety in the army and have avidly started painting it...which is unusual for me!
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