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Post by greedo on Apr 26, 2018 0:41:47 GMT
I have a great Corvus Belli Later Carthaginian army (3 actually so that I could do BBDBA), but in transport the elephants came off their square base.
The problem is the elephant doesn't come with a molded base, so you have to glue the 3 legs (1 is in the air) to the base directly.
I used super glue, which of course broke.
Pinning *might* work, but I'll be pinning to a 1/16" thick flat base...
Building up a bunch of greenstuff on the base could work, but then the elephant is going to have be sinking into the ground, and the feet will still only be able to be glued where they touch..
Any ideas? Another type of glue? They are the pride of my army, but they are fiddly AF.
Thanks in advance.
Chris
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Post by matakakea on Apr 26, 2018 13:24:36 GMT
Try Araldite. The Five Minute variety has worked well for me.
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Post by goragrad on Apr 26, 2018 21:52:45 GMT
A couple of options as I see it - pin through the base with something like flat headed thumbtacks (2?), epoxy, Liquid Nails/construction adhesive, or silicone.
Some miniatures I got off ebay were glued to their bases with silicone caulk and they were a bother to get off. Not sure how well it would do on a 3 foot attachment (and not what I would use), but it is well nigh indestructible.
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Post by paddy649 on Apr 26, 2018 21:55:26 GMT
Greedo, I faced that very same problem with my Magister Militum Indian Elephants.
The Silver solution is to use Araldite.
The Gold Solution is to glue dense Card Sabots onto the base and then Araldite the Elephant to the Card. The texture of the card makes the contact and glue maximise its effect.
The Platinum solution is to get old lead bases from broken figures, cut and trim to fit, pin them using superglue to the elephants feet and then araldite those to the bases. Do this and those elephants aren't ever shifting.
Paddy
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Post by goragrad on Apr 27, 2018 0:25:05 GMT
On the Araldite, a quick websearch shows a large number of adhesives under that brand name. Might do to name specific member of the line.
And as it looks to be a two part adhesive, how does it compare to JB Weld (no particular bias on my part, but JB is available locally for me and might be for others).
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Post by greedo on Apr 27, 2018 14:55:23 GMT
Thanks for the replies! I see Gorilla makes 2 part epoxy, which came up on Amazon with an Araldite search, might try that. JB Weld is amazing, but it turns grey so has to be painted over. Not necessarily a bad thing tho.
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Post by paddy649 on Apr 27, 2018 21:43:12 GMT
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Post by bob on Apr 29, 2018 14:09:23 GMT
"super glue" is too brittle for this sort of work. I use contact cement. It is stuff you put on both pieces, wait 10 minutes and then stick together. What is this called in UK? Also, any 2 part epoxy should work. I would drill hole through base, into legs and stick a piece of piano wire through (not bendable wire) before gluing.
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Post by scottrussell on Apr 29, 2018 19:47:46 GMT
I got a nasty skin reaction to 2 part epoxy resin vapour (not even contact) and had to stop using it. I have never found anything which works as well. Any suggestions?
Scott
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Post by bob on Apr 30, 2018 20:33:12 GMT
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Post by mustrum on May 2, 2018 12:22:34 GMT
Just use gorilla glue.
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Post by bob on May 3, 2018 3:54:43 GMT
Which gorilla glue?
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Post by greedo on May 3, 2018 4:53:26 GMT
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Post by goragrad on May 3, 2018 5:50:23 GMT
Actually, one question on the base - what material is it made of?
Presumably not cardstock, but there would be a difference in adhesives between what would be best for plywood, MDF/masonite, metal, plastic or resin.
Perhaps better than a thumbtack, should you decide to pin, would be a cut down carpet tack - low profile.
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Post by greedo on May 7, 2018 19:32:17 GMT
So just a quick update on this from the weekend. I ended up using Gorilla Epoxy: www.amazon.com/Gorilla-4200101-Epoxy-85-oz-Clear/dp/B001Z3C3AG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1525721410&sr=8-3&keywords=gorilla+epoxyIt mixed well, and hardened like a beast. I have 2 painted elephants and 4 unpainted, so I tested it by gluing some cardboard to the styrene base, and then gluing the elephants 2 1/2 feet (1 foot was half lifted off, but still had a small bit) to the cardboard. It hardened really well, and I shall use it for my African Spear's spears as well. Will also use it on my already painted Elephants with new bases. It also dried clear and easy to paint up. The Corvus Belli Elephant's ears are particularly tricky so I think this'll work well for them too! Thank you so much for the input! Chris |
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